Talk:Anti-Soviet resistance by the Ukrainian Insurgent Army

Huge background section
The background section should only briefly say about the origin of UPA and about issues related to the USSR, rather than anything else. For example, why things that had happen in the German-occupied Poland are at all relevant/related to the anti-Soviet resistance? Of course they might, but this needs to be established by sources. Otherwise, they are just content forks. Or, for example, were pogroms related to the anti-Soviet resistance? Of course, theoretically speaking, they could through the canard of Jewish Bolshevism, but I do not see sources making such connection on the page. And sure thing, these guys were very much anti-Polish, but the page is about anti-Soviet resistance, which is simply a different subject. I think this section should be cut significantly. My very best wishes (talk) 22:42, 11 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Well the general problem with the article is that it initially didn't mention anything about pre-Soviet history of OUN/UPA, so there was partially justified suspicion of WP:FORK, in attempt to paint UPA solely as freedom fighters. The other, much bigger problem, is that the whole section about post 1944 UPA-Soviet fighting is machine translation from Ukrainian, is written badly, what's worse is based on unreliable, Ukrainian, often primary sources, for example Litopys UPA, which is a collection of documents created by UPA.
 * I'm starting regreting that it wasn't removed entierly back in the day, and written anew. Marcelus (talk) 23:28, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
 * OK. Depending on responses here, I will take a look later and maybe fix some parts. My very best wishes (talk) 23:33, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I think you removed a bit too much, massacres of Polish people are relevant since they continued during the UPA-Soviet fighting. Marcelus (talk) 23:34, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Then it must be clear in the lead that it is relevant, and how exactly this is relevant to the anti-Soviet resistance. That is not clear at all - in the lead. My very best wishes (talk) 23:37, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Then you should have made it clear by making changes rather than deleting massive amounts of relevant information. I note there is only one reference intext to genocide now (relating to the Holodomor genocide question) and that it makes a claim of a Soviet genocide on Ukrainians but provides no citations with the claim. I also note that there is no bluelink intext to the Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia and that the articlea brushes over these relevant events. 79.154.64.32 (talk) 07:23, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Minor corrections to be made
Spotted "underground.." (instead of "underground.") and also "Baderists" (instead of "Banderites") in here, but cannot correct these since I'm not an editor with extended confirmed user access level, so if anyone has access, time and will, feel free! MårtenEngelberg (talk) 19:28, 29 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Fixed . Cukrakalnis (talk) 11:34, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Cheers! MårtenEngelberg (talk) 04:16, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Result
The current infobox shows a result of "Defeat of the UPA." Per Template:Infobox military conflict, results "may use one of two standard terms: 'X victory' or 'Inconclusive'." This should therefore be described as a Soviet victory; "defeat of the UPA" or some variant of that should probably be a bullet point instead. 2600:1700:3D58:900:AD1D:CDA9:D386:4D03 (talk) 03:01, 15 June 2024 (UTC)