Talk:Anti (album)

RFC
The album title has been stylised in publications and is listed in retailers/on streaming as ANTI, this is not an acronym, its just the word Anti written in capitals. There's a clear guide on all capitals being about stylisation. Per MOS:ALLCAPS, Avoid writing with all caps (all capital letters), including small caps (all caps at a reduced size), when they have only a stylistic function. Reduce them to title case, sentence case, or normal case, as appropriate. To get around this, some users have added (stylized in all caps) in the starting sentence immediately after the album's title. Although this isn't word-for-word against the MOS, I think the use of the note in this way basically circumvents the Manual of Style when the "stylisation" of the title has little to - no encyclopaedic value to the topic. >> Lil-unique1  (  talk  ) — 19:50, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Why do you need an RfC for this? Lots of albums have their titles written in all-capitals on their covers; indeed, it's probably more common than either sentence case or title case (all lowercse does also happen, but even on With the Beatles, we don't comment on the stylised title). In any case, you've gone straight for a full-blown thirty-day formal RfC without exhausting WP:RFCBEFORE when I can see no indication that any of the suggestions have been tried. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 14:39, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Well an experienced editor reverted my removal stating that its not what the guideline said. I could have used the third opinion option yes, but felt like this would be a good way of trying to establish whether such edits are in the spirit of the rules/MOS and would set a precedent. >> Lil-unique1  (  talk  ) — 23:23, 22 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Agree According to the style guide, I agree. There's no reason to add the parenthetical details after the title. Capitalization doesn't alter readers' ability to find the album or understand the full context of the article.
 * On a related noted, I would have loved to have seen this conversation take place on this talk page first without an RfC. I suspect your detailed thought process would have been effective on its own to fodder the necessary discussion. Penguino35 (talk) 22:13, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Point noted >>  Lil-unique1  (  talk  ) — 22:21, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
 * >> Lil-unique1  (  talk  ), you have the option to do a procedural close of this RfC, noting the policy  Red rose64 referenced above: WP:RFCBEFORE. Simply withdraw this RfC on your own, and we can all avoid having to go through the regular RfC hoops. Simply reply, "I withdraw this RfC" below, and another editor will remove the RfC header above. In the end, I believe your RfC is WP:good faith, but I recommend this alternative. Up to you, my friend. Good work. Penguino35 (talk) 22:32, 24 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment I believe this case is noteworthy for the lede. Stylisation of album titles is common on the picture sleeves/covers etc but this album has its titled stylised even on streaming/digital platforms and publications' album reviews (numerous sources cited throughout the prose) whereas the example cited, With the Beatles, is not . This goes beyond the cover art/picture sleeve stylisation and Rihanna herself tweeted "Hapypy #ANTIversary". From what I understand, the MOS dismisses the stylisation per-se in prose (i.e. writing it as ANTI) but a mention of the all-cap stylisation does not violate the MOS. Ippantekina (talk) 10:34, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Disagree: Wikipedia articles for albums, video games, and some films display stylization contained in parentheses only once in the lede and nowhere else in the article. This information is provided, because that is how the reader may encounter the topic outside of Wikipedia (e.g. Fury3). This is similar to a word or phrase which has a synonym or geographical spelling variant, given in the article lede and linked through redirects. Unless you wish to bring this up for a Wikipedia-wide policy discussion, then I would suggest this is an acceptable practice. &#8212;&#160;CJDOS,&#160;Sheridan,&#160;OR&#160;(talk) 05:43, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Disagree: the parenthetical notes are useful because its a way for the wiki the acknowledge the more widespread and officially correct stylizations. They cause no harm and take up little space. — PerfectSoundWhatever  (t; c) 22:10, 16 August 2023 (UTC)