Talk:Antimetabole

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I just came across this one on the Cycling in Chicago article: Carter H. Harrison, Jr., a Chicago mayoral candidate presented himself as "Not the Champion Cyclist; But the Cyclists' Champion." It's not mentioned on his page, however, and I haven't verified it. --bmtm (talk) 16:28, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

How about a mention of the They Might Be Giants song, "I Palindrome I", which, in addition to the title includes the this line: "Son, I am able,' she said, 'though you scare me.'Watch,' said I Beloved,' I said, 'watch me scare you, though.' Said she, 'Able am I, Son." Diddydoobop 07:29, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Go ahead, that sounds like it works. I love They Might be Giants =]

" "In America, you can always find a party. In Russia, the party finds you!" Yakov Smirnoff "

Does this work as one? It seems parallel, not ABBA word order, but it's on the page and I didn't want to delete without making sure I wasn't missing something... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.252.228.21 (talk) 23:45, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

I think it works, the pattern is "you can always find a party" versus "the party finds you". Probably have enough examples already.

Is this the same thing as Epanalepsis? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.170.80.217 (talk) 23:30, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

What about the antimetaboles in the classic Alice In Wonderland? Maybe an example of that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.5.102.202 (talk) 04:09, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Nietzsche: "...if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."drone5 (talk) 17:51, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Metabole
Why don't we have an article on metabole? Badagnani (talk) 06:22, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Reference for Antimetabole distinction from Chiasmus?
Where in the history of these terms is the distinction that a chiasmus does not repeat words? Apparently, someone simply made this up. I'll edit the pages accordingly when I get time. (Unless, of course, someone provides a GOOD reference for this peculiar idea.) Nehmo (talk) 07:43, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Agreed, Nehmo. Both Bing and Google (both with Oxford as source), specifically cite an example with repeated words. Antimetabole is a specific instance of chiasmus, but the more general term should not have the exclusion of repeated words. Gilsinan (talk) 04:00, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Prostitutes and solicitors
I really did see this scrawled on a toilet wall.


 * Is it better to be solicited by a prostitute, or prostituted by a solicitor?
 * (in another hand) It makes no difference - they're both cunts for hire. --   Jack of Oz   [your turn]  17:50, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Seneca
The quote from Seneca is not antimetabole, but its translation is. The Latin version should be removed and the English retained. 24.190.51.21 (talk) 17:39, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Derivations
So, it caught my eye that two of our examples are citing sources who were re-using existing material.

1. President Biden's Inaugural Address is cited for the "example of our power" quote is just re-using a line of Bill Clinton's from years prior: https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94045962

2. The Malcolm X line is re-purposing a line from the hit Cole Porter song Anything Goes, which, if Genius.com is to be believed, is recycling an existing joke from a Puritan magazine: https://genius.com/2879570

Should we amend these citations to point towards their origins? -- 07:18, 4 April 2021 96.244.45.52

We now also have the quote “If you fail to plan, you plan to fail.” attributed to Taylor Swift, but I'd heard it before the song cited here was released. I've seen it attributed to Benjamin Franklin by a number of sources, but am unable to verify that at present. Erated8 (talk) 04:41, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

I propose to add this quote from John Oliver
In late September 2019, British comedian John Oliver jokes that, in what he calls "Stupid Watergate 2," U.S. President Donald Trump wanted Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to get dirt on Biden and was "looping in both someone [ U.S. Attorney-General William Barr] so involved in the government they should be nowhere this kind of petty dirt and someone [ Rudy Giuliani] so involved in petty dirt they should be nowhere near the government." Ss0jse (talk) 19:29, 15 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Love the quote, but it will not help building a solid encyclopaedia to add an example that some readers and editors will find needlesly contentious. Nø (talk) 12:07, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I guess that's why we have Talk pages! Also, while I have your attention, and although what I'm about to say is unrelated to this Talk page, I'm editing List of state applications for an Article V Convention and found this:
 * "Photocopies of the relevant sections of the Congressional Record have are available through Friends of the Article V Convention (FOAVC) for the gap in the electronically available Congressional Record."


 * is not the correct tag, right? What is? Because I want to say on that Article page, "This website is broken and causes hundreds of URLs on this Article page to suffer Link rot." Is the correct tag ? How do I flag the whole page? Ss0jse (talk) 12:02, 17 June 2024 (UTC)