Talk:Anton Reicha

Stub?
Why is this page a stub? I think this is enough for a "full" article... Selfinformation 22:27, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * You're right, there's enough information here. In cases like this, you should just go ahead and remove the stub templates from the page - there's no need to ask. Jashiin 07:58, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Josef Reicha
His own compositions (at least the cello concertos of opus 4) are played and have been recorded, and redirecting only to a page in which he's mentioned as a cellist and teacher is slightly confusing :) Separate page, modify this one, or remove the redirect and allow a redlink until there's enough reason to create the first option? Schissel | Sound the Note! 11:43, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Josef Reicha has a separate article in NG, and not a small one either, so I think he deserves one here too. I made it a red link for now and will write a small article soon. Jashiin 17:33, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

List of works
If noone objects, I'd like to move the list of works into a separate article (ie. List of compositions by Anton Reicha), complete with sources. This was done in Beethoven, Mozart, really most composers. A nice shorter list of selected works, complete with opus numbers and dates of publication where available would be much more fitting, I think, especially given the uncertainity in attribution of many of Reicha's works and the sorry state of scholarship on him. Any objections? Jashiin 20:19, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * A full week has passed, there were no objections, so I moved the list. But I'm not so sure as I was a week ago about a shorter list - do we really need one in this article? Pros: (a) a short list of selected major works will draw attention to those works; (b) it will spare the reader the neccessity to find their way through the complexities of current Reicha catalogues. Cons: (a) if we can expand the "Works" section significantly, mentioning all major works, there will be no need to list those works in a separate section (but then again, its going to be hard to expand the section with practically no literature available in English); (b) I can't think of too many "major" works.. the wind quintets, the 36 fugues, the etudes, perhaps the operas, and that's it. I don't know much about Reicha's symphonic works, for instance, or whether his piano sonatas are "major" works. Anyway, opinions on the matter are welcome. Jashiin 20:58, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

"Variations for bassoon" in the Media section
Does anyone know exactly what piece is this? Stone's catalogue indicates just one work for bassoon and piano, a Duo in B-flat major without opus number. The only bassoon variations listed are a work for bassoon and string quartet. Is the media file provided a recording of a transcription? On the Ibiblio site, the title is given as simply "Bravura Bassoon". I have doubts whether this is a work by Reicha and/or whether this is the work's original form. Jashiin 12:06, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * This must be the one with string quartet. It's a transcription (lacking an intro, for some reason) of the piece on this CD, which is for bassoon and string orchestra. The linar notes don't give any info on the piece, unfortunately (though there's a nice analysis of the clarinet concerto). ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 23:26, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Wow, thanks for catching that. I've renamed the piece in the article accordingly. Jashiin 12:19, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Life
There are 2 sentences in this article which make no sense:

"In 1801 Reicha's opera L'ouragan, which failed in Paris, was performed at the palace of Prince Joseph Franz Maximilian Lobkowicz, Beethoven's patron. Empress Maria Theresa commissioned another opera after this performance, Argine, regina di Granata, which also was performed (although privately)."

Maria Theresa of Austria died in 1780, so it's impossible that she commissioned another opera from Reicha after 1801!

Millertj27 (talk) 08:56, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Well spotted, thanks! I've changed the link; it wasn't Maria Theresa of Austria, but Maria Theresa of Naples and Sicily. --Jashiin (talk) 10:14, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Composer project review
I've reviewed this article as part of the Composers project review of its B-class articles. This is a fine article, with which I have only modest factual and MOS-related issues. My full review is on the comments page; questions and comments should be left here or on my talk page.  Magic ♪piano 17:37, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the review. I expanded the lead as requested; hopefully this is better. I'd love to see more inline citations and references, but unfortunately Reicha's life and work are not a popular subject among scholars, and so practically no good sources are available. --Jashiin (talk) 11:35, 21 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Having actually played and liked Reicha's wind quintets, I always wondered why he seemed otherwise obscure. Someday I'll have to see if there are some good English (or possibly German) resources in my area.  Unfortunately, I suspect most of the good scholarship is either Czech or French, both of which I am weak in. (Google Books turns up this German work that I might get access to, someday in the future.)
 * The lead is definitely an improvement, btw.  Magic ♪piano 21:04, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

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Did Reicha write symphonies?
In the article it says that Reicha wrote 8 symphonies. But if you click on Imslp, it doesn't show any!! Explain please. WG HighwayNd4 (talk) 23:54, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Why the hell would you base any assumptions about a composer's body of work based on what IMSLP has scores of? Lemme Googlethat for you. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 05:39, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Fell into obscurity?
'Due to Reicha's unwillingness to have his music published before him), he fell into obscurity soon after his death and his life and work have yet to be intensively studied.'

Could it be that his work is not worth studying? That Reicha is one of the vast number of artists whose output was 'of its time' but naturally sank into oblivion as tastes changed? Much music by outstanding artists came down to us because it was played so often, and many hand-written MS existed. Obscurity cannot be attributed to lack of publication alone. And Reicha might have had a sound notion of his own moderate standing as a composer.

We are seeing second and third-rate female artists being 'rediscovered' and their work is no better - and no worse - than their male peers, and who remain obscure or lost, and with good reason.

Still, the current 'rediscovery' industry provides a few musicologists today with some rank and a doctoral diploma. It remains for some future iconoclast to expose the hum-drum nature of this 'rescued' material, and link it to the ubiquitous 'dumbing down' of public taste. 124.168.123.210 (talk) 22:00, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

a surrogate guardian?
What on earth does this mean? Is 'de facto' guardian intended? That he cared for the girls, though not legally required or empowered to do so? 'Surrogate' is one of today's horrid 'buzz words'. Might we do without it ? 124.168.123.210 (talk) 22:11, 4 July 2022 (UTC)