Talk:Apex Legends/Archive 1

Titanfall Universe
My info is unclear. It might be helpful to establish its place in the universe, if not at all. Zero Serenity (talk - contributions) 21:18, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Do we have a source (heh) for the Source Engine claim?
I haven't seen a game engine mentioned anywhere but this wikipedia article. Nicereddy (talk)
 * "Apex Legends is built using Valve's Source engine" (Source) --Superanton (talk) 20:38, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Use Wikidata for the infobox?
I created the Wikidata item for Apex Legends, can we use it for the infobox here? https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q61478103 Nicereddy (talk)
 * I'm a bit out of the loop on Wikidata, can you give me a guide somewhere? Zero Serenity (talk - contributions) 20:47, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Legends
In Apex Legends, there are 8 Legends (characters), including : BloodHound, Lifeline, Gibraltar, Wraith, Bangalore, Tox, Mirage, and Pathfinder.

I plan on adding a detailed description about each Legend's tactical ability, passive ability, and ultimate ability. This is definitely lacking in the article, and I feel it's essential to add. Bradley graul (talk) 20:04, 13 February 2019 (UTC)Bradley Graul
 * Please give a read to WP:VGSCOPE, please. We do not usually include detailed information on characters and their abilities, how to use or play them, etc. Anything that is included should be backed by reliable secondary sources. -- ferret (talk) 20:14, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * MOS is weird in this regard. What do you think would be the qualifying factor to include something? I mean, TF2 has a list and Overwatch has its own article. Not contesting your opinion, but trying to determine the line. Zero Serenity (talk - contributions) 20:47, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * TF2 is probably more than this article should feature at this time. Overwatch has such widespread and in-depth coverage of its characters that a separate article is warranted. As always, due weight from sourcing/coverage is an element. For Apex at this time, I'd say no more than you see in Battlefield 1. -- ferret (talk) 20:52, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Here's a thought. Let's come back in a month or so and determine its depth and breadth. Zero Serenity (talk - contributions) 20:59, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Certainly. Coverage can expand over time and due weight can shift. -- ferret (talk) 21:40, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Hey gang I know it's only been a week, but I've been thinking. Let me know what If you think this could possibly fit into the article(This is just Bangalore's description, and I won't add descriptions without consent)In addition it's also on par with [] and in accordance with WP:VGSCOPE. Bangalore- Passive Ability: While under fire player gets a boost of speed while sprinting. Tactical Ability: Fires smoke projectile that turns into 3 separate smoke grenades on impact. Ultimate Ability: Player calls in "Rolling Thunder" that carpet bombs designated area. I feel this isn't too detailed, but provides curious Wikipedians with an necessary game information.Bradley graul (talk) 02:27, 22 February 2019 (UTC)Bradley Graul

Marketing&Controversy
I think this and this is a notable factor to add to the article. At least as a mention, or more favorably, a separate section. What do you think? --► Sincerely:  A¥×aᚢ Zaÿïþzaþ€ ⚔  (hail sithis!)  17:17, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Verge is reliable, don't think dexerto currently is considered. Either way its at most a single sentence, not a separate section. -- ferret (talk) 18:42, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 May 2019
Please update the designers credited to Mackey McCandlish, Chad Grenier, Jason McCord, Brent McLeod 159.153.90.1 (talk) 16:59, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. &#8209;&#8209; El Hef  ( Meep? ) 17:06, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

photo requested
more photos would be nice. Baozon90 (talk) 13:01, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 February 2020
GamerOYT (talk) 15:14, 6 February 2020 (UTC) There are new blue supply bins for kings canyon in ranked
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 15:34, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Gameplay section - could do with work
Is it just me or is the gameplay section of this article unnecessarily long and detailed? Particularly as almost all of it is uncited.

I would like to cut it down to be far less detailed and to only included cited statements.

There are plenty of reliable sites to draw from with reviews which detail the gameplay. This would also ensure that the article emphasies what reliable sources consider to be noteworthy, rather than it just being someone's narrative description of how the game works.

Any objections?

TheSLEEVEmonkey (talk) 16:39, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Go right ahead. It looks like since I originally wrote it, it has expand in cruft (eg too much detail on weapon rarity). --M asem (t) 17:04, 16 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Done! Also tried to clean up the article quite a bit. How do we get this ranked from C quality to B quality? Looks comparable to other B quality articles to my untrained eye :) TheSLEEVEmonkey (talk) 16:03, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Need Ranged explination — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sorry1234567890 (talk • contribs) 18:00, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 October 2020
Manuel Solano Gutierrez III (talk) 11:47, 21 October 2020 (UTC) Enhance Article
 * You can request specific changes here on this talk page on the form "Please change X to Y", citing reliable sources. – Thjarkur (talk) 12:02, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Maps Section
I think since there are 3 maps now we should have a place to describe Kings Canyon, Worlds Edge, and Olympus. What does everyone think? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ConstructorRob18 (talk • contribs) 01:35, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Unnecessary and could probably propose various issues for editors. Besides, this isn’t meant to be some sort of pro guide or anything of the sort. UGM9 (talk) 01:45, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 October 2020
Create a Weapon list that appears in other language Wikipedias Antonio Solano Cuello (talk) 10:07, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Weapons
We need to add a list about weapons in the game, such as the main one since release and new weapons that belongs to Titanfall Universe --Antonio Solano Cuello (talk) 10:09, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * You can request specific changes here on this talk page on the form "Please change X to Y", citing reliable sources. – Thjarkur (talk) 11:08, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Not done. See WP:VGSCOPE #7. -- ferret (talk) 12:44, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Great idea Apexmayhem (talk) 12:41, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 October 2020 — Evo Armor leveling correction
The description for Season 6 states, "All armor has been replaced with Evo shields which level up in tier when taking damage."

This is incorrect or misleading as these shields level up when causing damage to an enemy player.

A suggested edit would be: "All armor has been replaced with Evo shields which level up in tier when damaging other players."

The link below states this effect as "Gains strength when wearer inflicts damage." https://apexlegends.gamepedia.com/Gear#Evo_Shield 154.3.44.188 (talk) 14:02, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Well I feel silly with that slipping through the sensors. Zero Serenity (talk - contributions) 18:26, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Except gold??? Apexmayhem (talk) 12:42, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

“Except gold???” If you are referring to gold armour not being able to be evolved into a stronger variant, it’s because of all gold items - armour included - having a special effect; in the case of gold armour, it’s the effect of shield cells and syringes being doubled. Having such an armour that can get stronger to the strength of the red Evo Shield (which is 125 armour/health) would make the choice between taking gold armour (when you actually find it) or red Evo armour irrelevant. ChiflaGoodluck (talk) 04:32, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Change at beginning
New to wiki editing. I think a more in depth look at the rings closing could be at the beginning Apexmayhem (talk) 12:40, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

“...this [Wikipedia page] isn’t meant to be some sort of pro guide or anything of the sort.” Also, that’s not really how the lead section is used; it’s meant to be a summary of the entire page and having such details there is both unnecessary and out of place, and no, my mind on such additions won’t be changed if those details were actually added in the Gameplay section (also, you’d probably would run into the problem of actually having to find a reference that you think would work for what you want to add to the article). ChiflaGoodluck (talk) 04:38, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Apex Legends Developers Update
Change X to Y.
 * ans= X is not the correct information. I am reaching out on behalf of the Apex Legends from Respawn Entertainment. Y is in charge of the game development. Please update to make the information on this page accurate.

X Producer(s): Drew McCoy, Tina Sanchez, Kaelan De Niese X Designer(s):Benjamin Bisson Change to: Y Game Director: Chad Grenier Y Producer(s): Ben Brinkman Y Designer(s): Jason McCord 107.216.142.19 (talk) 23:02, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: No explanation for the change given. For games with a succession of individuals in these position, it may make more sense to simply remove the fields. -- ferret (talk) 00:18, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
 * IP, you've updated this a couple times now. Can I take your last comment to indicate you have a conflict of interest with Respawn Entertainment? -- ferret (talk) 02:15, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes. Please update as the information currently listed is not correct. Please replace it with Game Director: Chad Grenier, Producer(s): Ben Brinkman, Designer(s): Jason McCord — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.216.142.19 (talk) 02:34, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I've removed the fields entirely. Wikipedia is not equipped to handle the ever shifting staff changes of a game under long term development. The old credits are no less true because new people have entered those positions. -- ferret (talk) 02:41, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Adding Legends' brief description in their respective Characters section
While I suppose there isn't any real need for it, I just think since the section states the game has a "diverse" cast, having each character with their respective quirk mentioned could give a little more character to this section. The proposed change would look like such:

• Bloodhound, the Technological Tracker

• Gibraltar, the Shielded Fortress

• Lifeline, the Combat Medic

• Pathfinder, the Forward Scout

• Wraith, the Interdimensional Skirmisher

• Bangalore, the Professional Soldier

• Caustic, the Toxic Trapper

• Mirage, the Holographic Trickster

• Octane, the Adrenaline Junkie

• Wattson, the Static Defender

• Crypto, the Surveillance Expert

• Revenant, the Synthetic Nightmare

• Loba, the High Society Thief

• Rampart, the Quick Witted Modder

• Horizon, the Gravitational Manipulator

• Fuse, the Bombastic Explosives Expert

A potential downside of this is that it adds what is technically unnecessary data which makes this section slightly harder to skim through on a whim, but given that entire seasons with descriptions are also included on here, a short quip of the character should be permissible. Let me know what you think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Larcondos (talk • contribs) 19:24, 19 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Any opinions on this still? Larcondos (talk) 12:06, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 April 2021
"Ports for Android and iOS are also scheduled to be released by 2022." CURRENTLY, INCORRECT

"Ports for Android and iOS are also scheduled to be released by the later half of 2021." SUGGESTION, CORRECT Truetrashcan (talk) 19:09, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:17, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment It seems that while the original launch date was expected to be in 2022, development has sped up. While the game's beta version should begin testing within a few months, I haven't seen an official EA or Respawn announcement that the actual game will be released in 2021 so far. Additionally as a side note, Technically the mobile version isn't a port anymore, it's being classified as a seperate game, similar to League of Legends and it's mobile counterpart Wild Rift. Larcondos (talk) 14:03, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

surpassed over
In the final paragraph of the lead, it says "surpassed over 25 million players". I suggest removing "over", because "surpassed" already means exceed; be greater than. --143.176.30.65 (talk) 17:31, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:36, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Fuse
Fuse is not a psychopath, as this has not been stated or implied in any official material. Therefore, I suggest changing "psychopath" to "ring fighting champion" in the Season 8 description. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CamelHey (talk • contribs) 13:31, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Run n Fly (talk) 15:43, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 July 2021
The video game is initially a console and pc game. Its not a mobile game. 74.89.153.35 (talk) 07:26, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: The article explains that there are mobile ports in development. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:05, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 December 2021
Change every second person pronoun (you, your, etc.) to "one", to keep the text more formal and professional. Aucosvalziya618 (talk) 14:32, 23 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Rather than using "one", I replaced the two instances of "you" that weren't direct quotes with nouns, per WP:YOU. PianoDan (talk) 18:35, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2022
In the description of the game's mechanics, please remove the part in which it says that players are rewarded in-game currency based on game performance. They may receive enough experience points to level them up and receive 600 Legend Tokens, but game performance does not directly reward a player with any of the game's three currencies. AGuyWithAnInternetConnection (talk) 03:48, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:52, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I've removed the line which I think you were referring to in this edit. Let me know if that was wrong. hemantha (brief) 12:05, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 7 January 2022
Replace the following section referring to forge (Top) with the following (Bottom) with the added sources, one being the original. The YouTube video in an of itself is technically a primary source therefore not as reliable unless paired with secondaries.

Respawn deceived their player base when they announced a character named Forge to be the season 4 Legend; he was killed by Revenant in the "Stories from the Outlands" video Up Close and Personal.

During Season 3 a character named Forge, as well as fake abilities attributed to him, was found in the game's files by dataminers and speculated to be released as the season 4 Legend, however he was never intended to be playable and was created Respawn to deceived their playerbase,  When Forge was "Announced" he was killed by Revenant in the "Stories from the Outlands" video Up Close and Personal.

2603:8080:F605:2B3B:EDB1:495F:D4EB:8C6F (talk) 02:39, 8 January 2022 (UTC)


 * I think one ref is enough. Added in this edit. Hemantha (talk) 03:39, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

I noticed that the edit I requested was wiped immediately after it was added because it did not have enough sources. This is why I requested you include all 4 sources. Pinging and  just incase.

New edit request, place the following text where it was originally, with all 4 sources:. Please decide ahead of time if this is something you want to include in the article instead of edit warring.

During Season 3 a character named Forge was found in the game's files. It was an attempt by Respawn to misdirect data miners and was never intended to be playable. . The character was killed by Revenant in the "Stories from the Outlands" video Up Close and Personal.

2603:8080:F605:2B3B:A1AD:C1EB:DE46:4E35 (talk) 03:20, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. The text had been there for a year and I thought previous edit request improved it with better sources. Now that has questioned it (and I agree with their edit summary), the value of the text needs to be established. Hemantha (talk) 03:48, 10 January 2022 (UTC)


 * That's the entire point of me bringing this up again, to establish a consensus with the users that this matter concerns. 2603:8080:F605:2B3B:A1AD:C1EB:DE46:4E35 (talk) 04:04, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * What that person had added was completely different than what was posted above with cites. They wrote something about leaked characters and I removed it as that is nothing special. There are leaks every season. Maggie, the legend confirmed for next season, for example, was leaked like a season or two ago. Leaks are nothing in itself special. I had nothing against the Revenant/Forge thing that was on the page. Ukiss2ne14lyfe (talk) 06:16, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 May 2022
2409:4066:19A:D2E:ABB3:7E81:41E7:B29F (talk) 11:01, 16 May 2022 (UTC) Designed by Kharibam Satish singh Produced by Kharibam Satish singh All under the Respawn Entertainment. As The website is running under the Creator of the Game Kharibam Satish singh with Respawn Team who should be contacting.
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Terasail [✉️] 11:12, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 May 2022 (2)
change one of the 20 playable characters (as of season 12) to one of the 21 playable characters (as of season 13) Peroon (talk) 12:58, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ WikiVirusC (talk) 14:30, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Update Apex Legends page plz
. 73.162.43.83 (talk) 05:10, 5 July 2022 (UTC)