Talk:Apidima Cave

Created the talk-page
Created the talk-page for the "Apidima Cave" article - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 14:23, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

ice-sheet
a map showing the ebb and flow of the ice sheets and timeframes to the location of the cave(s) would be interesting 50.111.5.59 (talk) 01:28, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Is Apidima 1 a true homo sapiens?
"A mixture of modern human and primitive features" means: not a pure h. sapiens, or a mix of anatomically more developed features with less developed features, but all within the h. sapiens range? I'm not a specialist, but based on plain logic, this looks like a distinction that has to be made. Maybe it's the result of a mix between an older h. sapiens population with incoming Neanderthals, or with another hominin species. That would still offer proof of the early apparition of h. sapiens on the Greek islands, but then Apidima 1 itself is not a pure h. sapiens. Or, it is a mix of anatomically modern h. sapiens of different stages of evolutionary "refinement", for lack of a better term, if such a thing exists - does it? That lack of knowledge on my behalf is the base of this whole question - and then Apidima 1 is indeed a "clean" h. sapiens. To specialists the distinction is probably commonplace, but here on Wikipedia we need to make it in a more explicit way (that's also why news aren't the best source, because most journalists don't manage, or bother, to make such distinctions.) Who can answer the question? Thanks, Arminden (talk) 10:07, 17 January 2020 (UTC)


 * I just want to recommend this article as a resource to anyone wanting to read a concise overview of the debate in one place.
 * https://www.science.org/content/article/skull-fragment-greek-cave-suggests-modern-humans-were-europe-more-200000-years-ago The x-phylas (talk) 06:57, 15 April 2023 (UTC)