Talk:Apostle (Islam)

The five Rasuls
The article states that the five are Ismael, Daud, Musa, Isa, and Mohammad, but the citation that it uses from USC states Nuh and Ibrahim as Messengers and does not include Ismael and Daud. The lists do not coincide with with other. Also, the problem with the former (wikipedia) list is that it does not include Ibrahim; In the Qur'an it menions in 87:19 and 53:36-37 the scrolls of Abrahim which makes him a Rasul. The problem with latter list is that it doesn't include Daud, which the Qur'an attributes the Zabur to in 4:163, 17:55, and 21:105 again making him another Messenger, and not just Nabi/prophet. Also, I have not seen in the Qur'an verses referring to neither Ismael nor Nuh as being Rasul or having books revealed to them. I will take out Ismael and put Ibrahim instead going along with both the USC citation and the verses that I gave. I will leave out Ismael and Nuh (although the latter does conflict with the citation) until someone can give a verse from the Qur'an referring to one or both of them as being a Rasul or as having a book or devine law revealed to him/them. Headswork (talk) 17:12, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

I misread the USC link and the definition of Rasul. According to some the term 'Rasul' and having been revealed the message in the form of a holy book are not synonymous. There needs to be a clearer definition of Rasul in the article and more about the different definitions from different scholars in addition to any info that is in Prophets of Islam.Headswork (talk) 20:48, 7 September 2008 (UTC)