Talk:AppForge

Software Vendors screw their customers and the country w/ licensing schemes
So AppForge and XtendConnect got bought out and the customers are again left customers holding the bag. Now we have IT solutions that would work in a technical sense but will soon fail because of licensing difficulties. The real problem here is, our business got sucked into actually depending upon technology. We continue to allow vendors to write the rules in their favor and at our expense. Licensing does nothing for me, the customer, but thanks for offering. No such choice, however! The problem, however, is becoming more serious as everyone's systems become more complex and distributed. I'm frankly tired of seeing American enterprise and Gov't investments continuously jeopardized by this non-sense. These self-serving licensing arrangements are putting into jeopardy the public interest and they extend across state lines (hint-hint). I suggest the industry clean itself up before someone else does.

This is yet another risk of using Commercial-Off-the-Shelf (COTS) over internal development. Remember the COTS push of yesteryear by our fly-by-night CIOs ? These various licensing schemes only serve the vendors and leave their customers to clean up the mess once the vendor sells out. Now our CIOs have a vision of SOA. Imagine a world once this "half-baked" vision of SOA is implemented. It is half-baked because they're not considering the whole chaotic picture of having various agreements with each service provider utilized, each making changes at any given moment, and all the connections in between). Any complex system will depend on a host of services owned by a variety of vendors spread across geography, each going belly-up or merging with another vendor, or constantly changing its licensing arrangements in a constant chase for the next buck. Nothing will ever work again for anyone two days in a row. It is already a monumental task keeping up with all the various licensing arrangements and renewals even on a good day.  It's a nice widget and looks great on paper.

Imagine the day your car won't even start because the license expired for the electronic ignition. Will you have to junk your car? This is not far fetched! I have a true story about an HVAC company down the road that had to scrap its entire manufacturing facility because the software used to run it expired and the software company went belly up. Too expensive to write their own software. Not very "green" either. Thank goodness our mechanical and electronic engineers (true engineers) did not do this to the country. It took short-sighted software vendors to bring us down.

Where have all the CIO's gone again? This is an important subject to address that effects all major corporations and Gov't. Actually doing something about a problem is so "last century". They much prefer the next shiny new widget and a quick path to their next job prospect. We in the trenches who actually have to do work always have to clean up their mess.

Perhaps customers need to unite and fight back against this trend and force vendors to no longer put our entire IT infrastructure investment and mission critical applications at peril. We need to twist the arms of our CIOs and management to actually do something for a change. No one should be able to have their cake and eat it too. Vendors should be allowed to protect their product but the customers should be allowed to protect their businesses and our government functions that their products were acquired to support.

j_k_smith@yahoo.com

Crossfire
Is Crossfire the leading mobile application services and development platform? http://www.appforge.com/developers/downloads.html Mathiastck 23:30, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Multi-platform is the differentiator
AppForge clearly leads the market in multi-platform mobile application development. There are competitors that offer many options to do single platform development, but each developed project only targets one operating system. Crossfire allows a single code base to target four major platforms at once.

Oracle announcement source
Is there a URL or other source for the Oracle announcement? Tom de whimsley 17:53, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Added Migration Service Company
I took the liberty of adding my company’s name to the list of companies that offer migration services. If anybody thinks I shouldn’t have done so, please feel free to show me the correct procedure. --Takirari 20:10, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

This page is a train wreck
Has anyone seen it lately? It's completely unorganised and messy. It seems like it's just a dumping ground for company updates, and contains Oracle's contact details which no doubt is frowned upon in some guideline. I'd clean it up, but I don't have any company history or anything to add.. 202.126.97.233 09:31, 27 July 2007 (UTC)