Talk:Apple II Plus

"Language card"
I'm pretty sure the term "language card" for the 16K RAM expansion card was not considered technically accurate, since there was also a ROM card called the "language card" that could sit in slot 0 that had a physical switch letting you flip back and forth between Integer BASIC and Applesoft BASIC. This ROM "language card" was marketed for the original Apple II as a way to change it into, mostly, an Apple II+. Because of the confusion, I think the term "RAM card" was considered more accurate than "language card" when talking about the slot 0 card that had the 16K of RAM. Tempshill (talk) 21:22, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Apple Model Navigation IIe vs. III
I'm moving the IIe "Following Family Model" back to III, since the purpose of this navigational table is to help those who are unfamiliar with the Apple model development navigate through the timetable of hardware introductions. THe Apple III is clearly a member of the Apple II family, just like the Apple I is. They are Apple operating systems versus Lisa or Macintosh. The fact is the III is based on the original AppleDos, designed to be backward compatible with the II Plus and the subsequent developments that went into the III's Apple SOS ultimately were folded back into the IIe's ProDos (in the same way the IIGS isn't really a II due to it's GS/OS but is otherwise backawrds compatible). That is the trail a prospective reader needs to follow. That is why it should be the next logical Family member, rather than listing the IIe as the successor model and family member which doesn't help the reader at all. Anybody who disagrees strongly and forms a consensus between the editors is welcome to put it back. --Mac128 (talk) 05:18, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Bell & Howell
I have an B&H Apple II that opens in exactly the same was as my Apple ][+. The FCC wouldn't have had anything to say about the Apple // in schools, not being able to open the case was more about a UL listing, IIRC.

The B&H model had some sort of shroud that prevented casual users from opening the case, but I do not have that one. Wikip rhyre (talk) 16:12, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I have a B&H Apple II, but the AV attachment was long ago removed and lost. It originally had a switch just under the case top that shut off the power supply when you opened the case. I understand that this was a UL requirement for educational AV equipment. I recall that there was a hex nut that you had to turn with an Allen wrench to "unlock" the case. This case lock would have been part of the AV attachment. 64.81.229.96 (talk) 05:31, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Repeat key spring
"The repeat key had a stiffer spring than the rest of the keyboard, which made it more difficult to press by accident." In the two machines I have owned, only the RESET key had a stiffer spring, which made sense, since accidentally resetting the machine usually meant the loss of unsaved data. I can't think of any sense in putting stiffer spring in the REPT key. I'm removing this statement for now, please provide evidence for it if you want to re-insert it! -- 77.189.76.111 (talk) 10:07, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Having had my keyboard apart in the last few weeks, I can confirm the RPT key did not have a spring ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.135.253.138 (talk) 17:32, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

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RAM Options
Pretty sure that 24K was an option for RAM in the Apple II+. We had a 1979 model. It's been a lot of years, but I could swear we bought it with 24K of RAM. (My impression was that that was the maximum when my parents bought it, but I am much less sure about that. It could be that that was all that was available from wherever they got it.) Can anyone else confirm this, or set me straight if I am wrong on this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmcnerney (talk • contribs) 11:06, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Any chance it was an Apple II not a II plus? It looks like the original Apple II had a 24K configuration option. ShadyCrack (talk) 14:07, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Apparently early Apple II+’s retained the Apple II memory config which had a lot more options - 4K or 16K banks, 3 banks total. So you could have had 16K+4K+4K in your II+ to get the 24K. ShadyCrack (talk) 15:36, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

INT 48k
My family had a 48k Apple ][+ without a language card, it booted into ROM-based applesoft 2 basic on most floppy discs. By default the system had no concept of an INT interpreter, but one could be loaded into RAM a program titled "INT 48k". After this, INT could be used and one could switch between interpreters freely. However this RAM-based INT interpreter had no concept of HGR or HGR2, so on this machine you could get high resolution graphics (with FP), or fast math (with INT), but not both unless you resorted to using machine code. &mdash; 2001:8003:E137:6701:1B2:B1F5:20DF:8A4B (talk) 11:58, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

No monitor?
No pictures of an monitor, or computer doing anything? 63.146.82.250 (talk) 14:30, 5 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Feel free to post your own. I would, but I sold my Apple ][+ along time ago, and my ][e needs some repair. Nowadays it might be hard to create a new free picture of a working ][+. Dhrm77 (talk) 18:58, 7 March 2024 (UTC)