Talk:Apple Inc. and unions

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By virtue of the contentious topics covered here, the viewpoints will be highly critical, I am inspired by this essay Criticisms of society may be consistent with NPOV and reliability. Covering a large company like Apple is a challenge, but so is building the largest encyclopedia. Future improvements will need to look in depth in the various worker mechanisms particularly in Foxconn and Apple's unique culture in the US of employee retention/secrecy Shushugah (he/him • talk) 00:39, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Unused sources
(Feel free to directly add/remove as they're used in article. ~ Shushugah (he/him • talk) 00:39, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Apple admits breaking the law in China; Fortune Mag
 * Uigher camps WaPo article
 * Verite auditor kicked out of China; Wall Street Journal
 * IndustriALL flags iPhone 6 labour violations Philippines
 * 2012 Atlantic; why apple retail workers should unionize
 * Apple shuttle drivers/teamsters union
 * Apple shuttle drivers/teamsters union

Use of John Oliver under #AppleToo
Alex Eng ( TALK ) 08:48, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Specific text to be added or removed: a sentiment mirrored on the union busting episode of Last Week Tonight with John Oliver.
 * Reason for the change: This phrasing is original research and should not be included in the sentence. Moreover, the reference cited is a primary source, and the clause above is a user's interpretation of that primary source (the episode). We need a secondary source to establish verifiability and that the statement is due.
 * References supporting change: N/A
 * I made the change you suggested and agree with you. Unsure if you have a conflict of interest, but Request edit template is for editors with a WP:COI. Apple worker organizations can be freely edited by anyone otherwise. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 10:49, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, . I do have a COI with respect to Apple Inc. as disclosed on my user page. To avoid even the appearance of impropriety, I keep a wide berth from articles even tangentially related to the subject, except through this template. Thanks again for the quick response!  Alex Eng ( TALK ) 11:57, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Strike numbers
I think a quote should be added to the section, after the statement about the walkout.

Alex Eng ( TALK ) 03:44, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Specific text to be added: According to Janneke Parrish, a former Apple employee involved in organizing the walkout, it is “significant” that workers are speaking out against Apple, despite the fact that the number of employees participating represents a small fraction of Apple’s 80,000 US employees.
 * Reason for the change: The HuffPost piece has a salient quote from one of the organizers. I also think that citing the total number of US employees provides context for the size of the action.
 * References supporting change: HuffPost piece already in the article.


 * ❌ This is an opinionated statement from a source involved in this action, and therefore not recommended for its inclusion into the article. It would be better to add analysis of the action from people not involved in this campaign, such as academics who studied this action. Z1720 (talk) 16:17, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Name of various union efforts in USA
Currently the various unionization efforts have a subcategory title listing the name of the efforts, Fruit Stand Workers United, AppleCore etc.. and one of the first initiatives was called Apple Retail Workers Union as in "Cory Moll launched the Apple Retail Workers Union in San Francisco, citing compensation, pay, benefits and hiring processes as motivations."

I don't have a strong opinion on it one way or another, but I think there's confusion whether it's a formal union, or something we Wiki editors came up with as a category name. Pinging @SquareInARoundHole~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 14:22, 12 May 2022 (UTC)


 * I don't think anyone will be searching for "Apple Retail Workers Union", nor will there be any new content about it. If we add that subcategory, the paragraphs after the first one do not make any sense as they are unconnected to that effort, and more a generalization as it stands in the chronological ordering. SquareInARoundHole (talk) 15:55, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I reworked it with the news that Apple Together is a solidarity union. I added the Apple Retail Workers Union back in with the new structure. Let me know what you think. SquareInARoundHole (talk) 17:09, 13 May 2022 (UTC)