Talk:Appley Bridge

I must re itereate here that shevington vale is not and never has been a village. It does not fit the formal dictionary definition of a village either phyically or historically. It is basically a housing estate built in the 60's/70's with a school and a row of shops.

Not so, whilst Shevington Vale is not on the 1894-95 OS maps it's clearly marked on the 1908 1:10560 maps - well before any 1960s-70s housing.

This article get worse - "The garden centre "Golden Days" is located just outside the main village on 'Back Lane' near the junction for the M6 Motorway" - blatant advertising!

78.32.109.152 (talk) 22:59, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

The comment below about Millbank is wrong. The houses of Millbank are ALL serviced by West Lancs District Council. Calico Brook which is culverted beneath Millbank estate was the boundary but it split the estate into two: half of the houses were Wigan, half were West Lancs. This was seen as wrong, due to different taxes for the same style of houses etc, and the boundary was moved south, away from the brook definition, to the footpath to the rear of the properties. This happened sometime in the late 70s/early 80s. Since that time ALL properties within Millbank are within West Lancs and pay their taxes to West Lancs.

I agree with the comment below. There are several inaccuracies within the article now. However I think the biggest part of the problem is with the people who live in the village who are serviced by West Lancs. Council do not want to be associated with Wigan. However, the simple fact of the matter is that the center of the village, which is Randalls corner falls under the jurisdiction of Wigan MBC, and just 100yds down Mill Lane and you are in West Lancs, or just 200yds up miles lane your in west lancs. The border follows calico brook. However the residents of Millbank (the west Lancs side of Calico Brook along mill lane) are serviced by Wigan MBC,But things are still not that clear. Check with the Post Office and we see they lists those addresses as Wigan ( 1, Millbank, Appley Bridge, WIGAN, WN6 9LJ - see the post office post code finder) but if i check Glenside (which is in West Lancs and serviced by West Lancs council) we get 1, Glenside, Appley Bridge, WIGAN, WN6 9EF, so this is something that will rumble on for a while. Arguments aside about who lives where (and the thinly veiled snobbery), the artcle muddies the water futher by using "In the adjacent village of Shevington Vale" as a place name, when it's a parsh/administrative ward name.

There is a first person (in poorly written English) sentence "We go on weekends away to low bank ground, coniston, do D of E and many more exciting things." what?

The article also fails to mention that The National Association of Schoolmasters Union of Women Teachers NASUWT have their north west offices there and Rubroid have a significant manufacturing plant based just north of the "bridge" which was in the news after a large fire on Monday the 12th of June, 2000 that called for local residents to be evacuated and roads to be blocked for some time after (hot liquid bitumen set hard in the drains) and also sourced some of its power from a local landfill project that produced gas from waste. The gas from the quarry was first used commercially in 1985 to supply Rubroid with 21TJ a year for a bitumen heating boiler. details here http://lib.kier.re.kr/caddet/retb/no44.pdf

peace. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.243.131.123 (talk) 13:49, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

This stub needs to be re written correctly, taken from Statutory Instrument 1993 No. 436 and the maps "Maps of the Cheshire, Greater Manchester, Lancashire and Merseyside (County and District Boundaries) Order 1993", you can clearly see that appley bridge straddles west lancashire and wigan boundary.

of course you will have to purchase the document, but an extract is available here:

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1993/Uksi_19930436_en_1.htm

from that extract:

"Greater Manchester" means the metropolitan county of Greater Manchester, and any reference to Bolton, to Salford or to Wigan is a reference to the district of that name in that county;

"Lancashire" means the county of Lancashire, except in the expression "West Lancashire", where it means the Lancashire district of that name, and "Chorley" means the Lancashire district of Chorley;

195.137.15.177 14:26, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

"The village lies within the borough of Wigan, Manchester, and Lancashire" - this part of the entry is really a repeat of information in the first paragraph and is also incorrect as far as West Lancashire is not a borough but a district. Also it is not in Manchester. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tabath (talk • contribs).


 * I've removed that paragraph entirely - it made little sense. Maps I have inspected show it as part of Lancashire: although naturally the border with Shevington is unclear, it appears only a sliver would be in Greater Manchester.  I welcome any sources on the subject.  Morwen - Talk 14:29, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

The village stradles west lancs (a district) and lancashire borders. It only comes under greater manchester because part of the village is serviced by Wigan MBC (the other half is serviced by west lancs council).

Take a look here at the west lancs website: http://www.westlancsdc.gov.uk/Community/index.cfm?ccs=555&cs=2723

and then at the wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Borough_of_Wigan

that states: "The Metropolitan Borough of Wigan is a Metropolitan Borough of Greater Manchester, in the North West of England. It is named after its largest town, Wigan..."

it's just not a simple case of saying appley birdge is in west lancs or lancs.

anon 14:35, 24 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Fact of the matter is, Appley Bridge is NOT in Wigan. Appley Bridge IS in the 'administrative Borough of West Lancashire', in Lancashire. People from Appley Bridge don't 'come from' Wigan, they 'come from' Appley Bridge. 80.192.242.187 11:20, 2 January 2007 (UTC) JemmyH.

That is plain wrong. i pay my council tax to Wigan council. i live within appley bridge. The post office says i live in appley bridge, Wigan. The boundary for west lancs and wigan are denoted by big signs throughout the village.


 * I have sympathy for people wanting to see Appley Bridge as separate from Wigan. A postal address can be a poor guide, since they are often devised for the convenience of sorting/delivering letters, which for example led to places clearly not normally considered part of Liverpool having L post codes at one time.  The part of Appley Bridge with the bridge is in Lancs isn't it?  I'd see the bridge as a focal point of Appley Bridge.    — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gomez2002 (talk • contribs) 15:29, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Skull House and Skull House Lane
It seems safe to assume that the Skull House gave its name to Skull House Lane. The lane has had that name since at least the middle of the nineteenth century (it was mentioned in the 1851 census). However, the story given about the origins of the name Skull House seems to be, at the least, confused, and probably apocryphal. The assertion that ‘The story goes’ about the monk in the Civil War, although very colourful, is based on a major confusion between Oliver Cromwell and the man who was responsible for the Dissolution of the Monasteries under Henry VIII, Thomas Cromwell. There were no monasteries left in England at the time of the Civil War, and had not been for over a hundred years. Although it maybe that this story is told by some people in Appley Bridge, it is not one that I have heard before. Unless there is some supporting evidence of which I am unaware, the first paragraph is not what would be expected in an encyclopedia.

Either the paragraph remains with an explanation that it is another example of unreliable ‘popular history’, or it should be reduced to an acknowledgement that the house contains an ancient human skull of unknown date and unknown provenance.Beverslie (talk) 00:47, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Relative Affluence of Appley Bridge
What is the justification for the term 'affluent village', it seems strange to me that the village could be described as being primarily marked out as affluent. The private housing estates consist mainly of unspectacular middle class housing. Gomez2002 (talk) 15:17, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

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