Talk:Arab states of the Persian Gulf

Requested move 28 December 2022

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: Not Moved (non-admin closure) >>> Extorc . talk  19:32, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Arab states of the Persian Gulf → Arab states of the Gulf – None of these states refer to the Gulf as Persian, see for example Gulf Cooperation Council, formally the "Cooperation Council for the Arab States of the Gulf". This is explained at the article Persian Gulf naming dispute. The word Persian here seems unnecessarily WP:POINTy, and fails the "naturalness" test in WP:CRITERIA. Onceinawhile (talk) 23:02, 28 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Oppose, naming the gulf is perfectly natural, given how many are in the world. CMD (talk) 01:58, 29 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Support, per WP:COMMONNAME search for Arab states of the Gulf show 119,000,000 results while search for Arab states of the Persian Gulf show 23,200,000 result. As most of these countries do not refer to themselves as 'States of the Persian Gulf', nor their allies, which omits a huge portion of resources material. Another title option to possible consider is "Gulf Arab States" which show 123,000,000 results. Gorebath (talk) 09:09, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Oppose Last time I checked, "Persian Gulf" is the WP:COMMONNAME for the body of water in question. - LouisAragon (talk) 17:23, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose as a clearer name for English speakers. I specifically reject the nomination's "Gulf Cooperation Council" as evidence of support because that's a formally named organization whereas here we are using a lay-language description. For that reason, I think we should go with what is clearest lay-language regardless of what those involved would like for their own apparently-nationalistic reasons. While there obviously is a dispute about it, the naming-dispute article seems to support "Persian Gulf" as the standard name in much of the English world. DMacks (talk) 09:36, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
 * oppose there are multiple gulfs, current title is common name per LouisAragon, and also per DMacks. Its good to see you again, been a while since we participated in the same discussion. How have you been? —usernamekiran (talk) 21:33, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Recent vandals changing "Persian Gulf" to "Arabic Gulf"
It seems like this article is not monitored much. There are vandals repeatedly changing the term "Persian Gulf" to "Arabian Gulf," in all instances where the term is present. I suggest locking this page to stop these vandals. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarkParker1221 (talk • contribs) 00:37, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

The Arabic name and an Iranian user
I made an edit of the Arabic name to reflect the actual Arabic name, but Iranian user "Bijanii" reversed it and even completely removed the Arabic name in an article discussing Arab states! He seems perhaps upset the Arabic name is different than the Iranian and English names, but these are the facts and that person is doing a nationalism-based editing. 176.224.61.226 (talk) 07:56, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Your edit was reverted because it is an example of WP:POV; there is also no English-language WP:RS for the term “Arabian Gulf states”. See the section below.--Bijanii (talk) 07:31, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Persistent vandalism & POV from Arab users adding the term “Arabian Gulf states”
There is persistent WP:Vandalism and WP:POV from Arab users adding the term “Arabian Gulf states”. There hasn’t been a single reliable English-language source added that meets WP:RS with the term “Arabian Gulf states”. Requests to discuss in the talk page have not been met either. Bijanii (talk) 07:16, 26 March 2024 (UTC)