Talk:Arby's/Archive 1

Name origins
I read the explanation of the name "Arby's" in the article. I always thought that the R.B. stood for roast beef. Any idea if they picked the initials because of the double meaning? ike9898
 * I've heard American roast beef, yes sir. Doesn't sound too likely to me, but I have heart it... Tuf-Kat 19:37, Apr 4, 2004 (UTC)
 * Yeah, someone told me that once, but I don't know...maybe they once had an ad campaign that said that. ike9898


 * They did have such a campaign, in the 1970s. The name predates the use of the "acronym" in advertising, however. UninvitedCompany 18:18, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)


 * As told by the official Arby's story, available on their website, it states the name was chosen to stand for Raffel Brothers, and it was merely coincidence that it also could be interpreted as Roast Beef. Direct Quote from website: So, in the words of Forrest, "We came up with Arby's, which stands for R.B., the initials of Raffel Brothers, although I guess customers might think the initials stand for roast beef." This is required knowledge of employees at Arby's (I know because I am one). --SnakeSoldier 11:05, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Arby's "roast beef" vs "real" roast beef?
Perhaps someone could add a section discussing what Arby's calls "roast beef" (which seems to be a luncheon-meat-like loaf of processed, compressed meat which is then sliced in the restaurant) versus "real" roast beef (i.e. slices cut off of a beef roast)? I've always wondered a bit about how and why they go that particular route.

--Robotech_Master 06:18, 29 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Arby's roast beef is 70% lean beef chunks, 22% beef cuts (50/50 ratio fat to lean), and 8% water, salt, and tripoli phosphates. It is then roasted in the store at 200 degrees for 3 to 4 hours or until it is between 138-140 degrees internal temperature.  Therefore it is pretty much like traditional roast beef except with added water, salt, and phosphates for nutrient retention and flavor.

--marv3fan

Pretty much like traditional roast beef, other than the fact that it tastes nothing like roast beef, and the texture is nothing like "real" roast beef. Actually, Arby's had "real" roast beef until the mid-to-late-70's, when they abruptly switched to the processed combination product. I haven't been back since. A combination of beef chunks + beef cuts + additives is nothing like slicing beef off a real roast.

This should definitely be in the article.

Triarc/ARG/RTM
An error in the entry. Triarc didn't buy ARG but had controlled ARG all along. Triarc bought out RTM, who had currently owned more than 70% of the stores in the united states. They then moved from their corporate offices in Fort Lauderdale to the RTM corporate offices in Atlanta. If someone could add more information about the buy-out, it'd be much appreciated. I'm very poor with organization, so I can only give you this page as reference about the buyout:

http://www.emergers.com/Transaction.140/current_category.0/transactions_detail.html

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=67548&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=715069&highlight=

http://www.triarc.com/business_arbys.html

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/stories/2005/05/30/daily2.html

Marv3fan 04:36, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

That's nothing like real roast beef you sound like someone who works at arbys and is trying to coerce people into not adding this to the article.

I was actually hoping someone would add it to the article. I just wanted to give the fact.Marv3fan

errors on article
A bunch of errors on the article. First off, icing (not frosting, there's a difference) on the turnovers is supposed to be 7-9 stripes. I just checked, this is in the OSM (Operating Standards Manual) so it's very much not franchise specific but Arby's specific. The shirts vary by store and franchise. It all depends on the stores color schemes. Also, beef is supposed to be cooked to 138-140 degrees. This is also Arby's specific and not franchise specific. If you guys need a scan of the training books that state this (they're not copyright) I'd be glad to scan. I could also scan the OSM, but those pictures cannot be put into the article and neither can the text, as that is completely copyright. I do think the burden of proof should be on the people placing the text in to the article, though. But if it comes to people reverting it back I'll be glad to provide proof against what was written in the article. --Marv3fan 18:13, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

the food listing
the food listing is very lacking, and a bit outdated. most of the stores are now Triarc/ARG/RTM whatever and most of these items are either edited or discontinued. IE: The junior roast beef comes on a 3.5 inch bun with 1.5 oz of roast beef. The only real exception anymore to the RTM/ARG franchise is a very small regional market and a few mall stores. Can we also add about how they just Hello grilled chicken?

--Marv3fan 18:18, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Silly drive-thru photo
Does the drive-thru photo really belong in this article? It doesn't really identify Arby's. Seems like someone keen on uploading his digital camera photos to Wikipedia. I think it should be removed as un-encyclopedic and just plain silly. Phiwum 16:50, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

agreed. --Marv3fan 04:25, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Trivia Section
Does the trivia section really belong here? Why are we recording what the Simpsons have said about Arby's? I vote to pull it off, but some of it was just put up, and it's rude to insta-revert someone who wasn't vandalizing. Does anyone else see any merit in removing the trivia section, or at least trimming it down? -Diabolic 12:56, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Gotta disagree with you on this one. It's Arby's Specific and something someone can use as a reference (IE: popular culture view on Arby's). I think it's a nice little subsection Marv3fan 04:33, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi there...am one of the people who contributed to the "Arby's in Pop Culture" section that has been cut and thus am horribly biased. But I thought it belonged for a specific reason, which was that when I bumbled upon this Wiki article on Arby's, it read as if it could have been written by the corporation itself, with virtually nothing that couldn't have come from pro-Arby's people. There's currently a minor neg note about some items having trans-fats in them, but otherwise it seemed a bit too rah-rah. I actually LIKE Arby's food, but the fact that there's so much anti-Arby's rhetoric in pop culture seems significant. It seems noteworthy that in a variety of pop culture venues--Seinfeld, the Simpsons, alternacomix, etc.--Arby's is a symbol of bad taste, the depths to which people will descend when they're desperately hungry, etc. You don't hear those pointed, negative jokes about McDonald's. Hence this seemed like a phenomenon worth noting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.188.193 (talk) 06:58, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Arby's Name
Removed uncited name source. For the actual name source, see: Arby's history. Rklawton 19:56, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Advertising reverted
It looks like the article was hit by an Arby's employee with lots of ® symbols, stock symbols, and all the links were gone. There may be some useful info in the ad-bot version but it was mainly unsourced and/or fluff. - SCEhard T 22:40, 14 July 2006 (UTC)