Talk:Arc welding/GA1

GA Review
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 * Starting GAR.Pyrotec (talk) 19:47, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Initial review
The article is quite readable and has a number of relevant illustrations. So on these scores its acceptable for GA.

My main concern is WP:Verify. The article has in-line citations for the "practical" aspects of arc welding, but not very much on other aspects. For example: I suspect that I may put the article's GAR On Hold until these problems are fixed.Pyrotec (talk) 20:47, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * statements about forge welding unrefenced
 * Humphry Davy unreferenced
 * Welding of ships in WW I


 * They are actually covered in refs 1 & 4 respectively. Nergaal (talk) 04:09, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

GAR On Hold
Overall this article has a wide scope and reasonable prose; and it appears to be of the right level of detail to gain GA-status.

It forms part of a series of articles on welding; with several common blocks of text used in multiple articles. Some of these other welding articles, with common text, have long standing FA-status, e.g. Welding - May 2005, Gas metal arc welding - September 2005, Shielded metal arc welding - February 2006. However, under the current guidelines this particular article is possibly marginal in respect of WP:Verify and possibly Scope.

Specific problems (possibly common amongst several welding articles):


 * Vagueness of dates - not all statements have in-line citations.
 * discovery of electric arc by Davy given as 1800, another ref in my possession states 1808.
 * The Fullagar, misspelt as Fulagar appears to be post WW I, not actually WW I. So I corrected & copedited this part.
 * Typical welding currents and voltages are absent from the Power Supplies section.
 * The Welding operation is not discussed - a summary of e.g. Shielded metal arc welding provides an example of how this might be covered.
 * No discussion of types of welds, such as butt weld, lap welds, etc, - Welding provides a example of how this might be covered.
 * No discussion of the problems that can be caused by the heat of welding, such a bending and distortion of the work pieces; and how this might be addresses during welding operations.
 * No discussion of the various coatings of the electrodes - Shielded metal arc welding provides an example of how this might be covered.

For these reasons, I'm keeping the article on On Hold, but I will reset to date today's date.

I'm sorry if this appears harsh in the light of other welding articles that currently have FA status; as these other welding articles do have some "common problems".Pyrotec (talk) 18:49, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

GAR
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria


 * 1) Is it reasonably well written?
 * A. Prose quality:
 * B. MoS compliance:
 * 1) Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
 * A. References to sources:
 * B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
 * C. No original research:
 * 1) Is it broad in its coverage?
 * A. Major aspects:
 * B. Focused:
 * 1) Is it neutral?
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) Is it stable?
 * No edit wars, etc:
 * 1) Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
 * A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
 * B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * {{#if:This welding article is one of a whole series of articles on welding; many of which share common blocks of text. Many of these shared text blocks, some of which are under-referenced and/or inaccurate, also appear in a number of welding articles that were awarded FA status in 2005/6 and which aught to be reviewed (and downgraded where appropriate).Pyrotec (talk) 08:26, 7 November 2008 (UTC)|This welding article is one of a whole series of articles on welding; many of which share common blocks of text. Many of these shared text blocks, some of which are under-referenced and/or inaccurate, also appear in a number of welding articles that were awarded FA status in 2005/6 and which aught to be reviewed (and downgraded where appropriate). The article was put On Hold for these to be addressed - no action took place, so the article fails.Pyrotec (talk) 08:31, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) Is it stable?
 * No edit wars, etc:
 * 1) Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
 * A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
 * B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * {{#if:This welding article is one of a whole series of articles on welding; many of which share common blocks of text. Many of these shared text blocks, some of which are under-referenced and/or inaccurate, also appear in a number of welding articles that were awarded FA status in 2005/6 and which aught to be reviewed (and downgraded where appropriate).Pyrotec (talk) 08:26, 7 November 2008 (UTC)|This welding article is one of a whole series of articles on welding; many of which share common blocks of text. Many of these shared text blocks, some of which are under-referenced and/or inaccurate, also appear in a number of welding articles that were awarded FA status in 2005/6 and which aught to be reviewed (and downgraded where appropriate). The article was put On Hold for these to be addressed - no action took place, so the article fails.Pyrotec (talk) 08:31, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * {{#if:This welding article is one of a whole series of articles on welding; many of which share common blocks of text. Many of these shared text blocks, some of which are under-referenced and/or inaccurate, also appear in a number of welding articles that were awarded FA status in 2005/6 and which aught to be reviewed (and downgraded where appropriate).Pyrotec (talk) 08:26, 7 November 2008 (UTC)|This welding article is one of a whole series of articles on welding; many of which share common blocks of text. Many of these shared text blocks, some of which are under-referenced and/or inaccurate, also appear in a number of welding articles that were awarded FA status in 2005/6 and which aught to be reviewed (and downgraded where appropriate). The article was put On Hold for these to be addressed - no action took place, so the article fails.Pyrotec (talk) 08:31, 7 November 2008 (UTC)