Talk:Arch Deluxe

Big Xtra?
I was always under the impression that the Arch Deluxe was slightly retooled and renamed the Big Xtra. No truth to that hunch?
 * The Big Xtra was a burger introduced in 1997, that was all but decommissioned by 1999. It was actually more of a direct rip-off of the Whopper; it didn't have the seasoned bun, special sauce, or any of the special fixin's of the Deluxe, and had 200 calories more than the Arch Deluxe.  --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 16:42, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * Wasn't the Big Xtra just renamed the Big N Tasty ?

Big 'n Tasty an offshoot?
It seems the Big n Tasty is a direct offshoot from this product. --24.249.108.133 16:51, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

As I remember in my local USA McD, the Arch Deluxe's spot got taken by the Big Xtra, then it became the Big n Tasty and was de-menued and you cant get it unless asked for by name. Its still availble today AFAIK.24.90.22.220 17:06, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Good concept, poor marketing?
It's interesting that Burger King's Angus Burger has become extremely successful whereas the Arch Deluxe failed to catch on, despite the conceptual similarities. This leads me to wonder whether bad marketing was solely to blame for the flop. 217.34.39.123 11:57, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

As someone who has tasted both products, the Angus Burger tastes objectively better. The Arch Deluxe tasted and looked like a run of the mill McDonald's burger, while the Angus Burger has a big ol' patty of beef. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.27.112.140 (talk) 04:45, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Chronology
"When studies showed that its first set of advertising was unsuccessful, and was possibly even hurting its existing branding, it switched to a more conventional McDonald's-style commercial, featuring Ronald McDonald doing adult activities, such as playing golf and dancing at a night club. Such advertising, however, combined with the focus on the "adult" McDonald's, led to late night TV jokes and skits involving Ronald McDonald visiting pornography shops.[citation needed]"

I may be wrong, but growing up I remember that the advertisements described (Ronald doing "adult" things, came before the adverts with the confused children in them (before the product itself, in fact, as a teaser) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.215.193.185 (talk) 01:54, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

As far as I remember, you are correct. The TV ads showed Ronald McDonald doing "adult" things: clubbing, golfing etc but showed no product, but I can't find any citations to prove it. 66.108.243.166 (talk) 11:47, 13 February 2011 (UTC)Moi

Nickname
I remember hearing of this also being used as a nickname by friends to taunt Marilyn Manson, around the time of the Antichrist Superstar album. I think he mentioned it in his book but I have lost track of the reference. Zaphraud (talk) 19:23, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Lifespan?
Any idea when the AD was withdrawn? The article doesn't say.

70.88.213.74 (talk) 22:26, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Redundancy
This article would seem to be the same as the [] article. 72.88.58.234 (talk) 05:32, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Chicken McGrill cancellation
I remember that two weeks after McDonalds ceased selling the Chicken McGrill, a study of fast food items was released which listed that sandwich as the single most healthy (or least unhealthy) fast food item sold at any fast food restaurant in the USA. Oops! Had McDonalds waited a couple more weeks they could have heavily capitalized on that. I suspect that study led to the introduction of McDonalds current premium chicken sandwiches. How long was it between the end of Chicken McGrill and the intro of Premium Chicken? All the McGrill production and promotional stuff was probably quickly done away with and the company would have had to re-do everything from coming up with a new product name, any tweaks to the sandwich, a whole new promotional campaign etc. Giving a product the axe only to find out just too late that shouldn't have been done makes bringing it back an expensive process. Bizzybody (talk) 07:13, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Countries of availability and discontinuation date
Where else was this burger sold beside the USA? Also why can't it be more specific about when the burger was phased out?--TangoTizerWolfstone (talk) 14:36, 21 January 2015 (UTC)