Talk:Archipelago Sea

Reference to the number of islands?
To my surprise, I have been unable to locate a valid reference for the number of islands of various size. This would be, in my opinion, the most important reference in the article. Can somebody help? --Chino (talk) 08:44, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

The webpage Virtual Finland states that there are more than 80 000 islands larger than 100 square meters along the coast of Finland. The same page states that the Archipelago Sea has some 20 000 "islands and skerries". I think it is unlikely that the Archipelago Sea would only have 25 % of the Baltic islands in Finland. This piece of information seems to very hard to reference accurately. --Chino (talk) 10:23, 8 August 2008 (UTC)


 * yes it is, I came up with the estimate by adding up regional numbers of the islands. piece of original research if you will. it was some sheet of excel info from some ministry (forestry???). i don't know if some islands had been accounted in the two provinces (A, V), but i doubt it. The "80 000" adds up the islands of other provinces too. Can't seem to find it now, try also land survey office for this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.186.86.123 (talk) 05:27, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Ookay, now there's an official leaflet on islands of Finland, the numbers should be changed a bit: http://www.tem.fi/files/27351/Suomisaartenjavettenmaa230309suomi.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.76.49.34 (talk) 08:03, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Archipelago Sea? What?
To my understanding place names are not translated. This article should be renamed Saaristomeri. Any objections? Clarifer 15:25, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Archipelago sea biosphere reserve (Unesco) is mentioned on the external link of the national park. I think at least the english name should be in the text, since it's is used also in official finnish sites.84.230.240.128 04:53, 22 May 2006 (UTC)


 * The names of seas and such are translated pretty much always. Take a look at sea and you won't find a single one with a non-English name. Besides, even if it was translated, it would probably have to be Skärgårdshavet, since Swedish is pretty much the dominant language in the area. - ulayiti (talk)  05:13, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
 * What are you talking about? There are lots of e.g. Pyhäjärvi in Finland and none of them translate as Holy Lake in English. Doh. Taking into account the local linguistic situation this article should be apparently renamed Skärgardshavet Sea (compare: Lake Pyhäjärvi)? Skärgardshavet sounds fine to me too. Clarifer 19:05, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, the sea is located in a Swedish speaking area, so if you would change it to a local name, it would be Skärgårdshavet. But if "Archipelago Sea" is commonly used in the English language, maybe that would be the first choice. --Boivie 08:43, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Gulf of Bothnia and Gulf of Finland, two adjacent sea areas, are translated into English. --Chino (talk) 10:25, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Coordinates
I think coordinates are missing in this article.--Xtv - (my talk) - (que dius que què?) 15:59, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Done. --Chino (talk) 09:02, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Fish? Twins?
The last paragraph of "Demographics and administration" is really poorly written, and lacking citations. This needs to be rectified. --N-k, 00:58, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * This phenomenon has been studied by PhD Virpi Lummaa, and the study has been published in Nature magazine (Lummaa V, Haukioja E, Lemmetyinen R & Pikkola M 1998 Natural selection on human twinning. Nature 394: 533-534.) Samulili (talk) 18:54, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Excellent reference, but isn't this original research? And in which way is the paragraph poorly written? --Chino (talk) 10:27, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I made small changes in the paragraph about twinning and marked the source. I had to remove some claims about the hazards of fishing as at least Lummaa et al. make no mention of that. I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean by original research—the given piece of information is attributable to a reliable, published source. Samulili (talk) 19:24, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The article in Nature is certainly original research, but the data can be referred to other sources as well. --Chino (talk) 09:39, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Not a sea?
User:Hmains removed the article from Category:Seas with the comment "set of islands,not a sea". I do not know the exact meaning of the word "sea", but as the name ("sea", "hav", "meri") suggests it is the water area (including islands) that is called the Archipelago Sea. The set of islands would be called islands of the Archipelago Sea or similar.

Was the change a missunderstanding or is there some reason for it that I am not aware of?

--LPfi (talk) 09:32, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I guess it was a misunderstanding of the nature of the article. I'll bring back that category. Samulili (talk) 16:28, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Photo of Grand Duchess Tatiana
The current version of the article includes a photo of Grand Duchess Tatiana Nikolaevna of Russia, taken in Kellosalmi. There is one place in Finland called Kellosalmi, and that is in lake Päijänne, not in the Archipelago Sea. Clearly the picture is either erraneosly labelled or in the wrong article. Can someboy clarify? --Chino (talk) 02:34, 8 April 2013 (UTC)




 * Kellosalmi is the channel between Kellosalmi beach south of Virolahti and the Tuuholmi isle in the archipelago of Virolahti unfortunately not in the Archipelago Sea. --Ras67 (talk) 23:34, 28 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Apparently there are two of them, neither of which is in the Archipelago Sea. I removed the picture. --Chino (talk) 08:57, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

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