Talk:Ares/Archive 1

Ares Patronage
Isn't Ares the patron of Sparta? As Athena was patron of Athens, and the two states Athens and Sparta were at war with each other and according to legend were spurred on by Ares and Athena - each of which poised their city states to attack the other.JayAlto (talk) 16:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey Ares' Guys
he is such an interesting person, his special powers are cool!!

We need to turn this into a disambiguation page, and move the god-related content to its own article. Tronno he had an afair with atprodite.

his sister athena,his father is zeus and his mother is hera.02:38, Jan 19, 2005 (UTC)

he was the founder of thebas.

Quality
This page has a fair bit of information, but it doesn't read like an encyclopedia article at all. It's just a jumble of random facts. A better intro would be nice, and a different section on Ares-related myths. I might give it a shot, but the reason I'm here is 'cause I don't know all that much about him... --Niten 19:00, 2 September 2005 (UTC)


 * I've made a start at moving away from memories of Grandma's version of Bulfinch (or the afternoon-tv mythology of adventures of Xena, as above!). I entirely removed the detail of Artemis causing the death of the gigantes Otos and Ephialtes, for it relates to another episode connected with them, irrelevant to Ares. The rest is pretty much self-explanatory. --Wetman 17:39, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Second sentence incomprehensible

 * Mars, the god of war that they inherited from the Etruscans, with Hellenic Ares, but maintained a different, less ambiguous relation with him.

It's completely unclear und ungrammatical. I don't know what it is supposed to say, so I can't fix it. AxelBoldt 02:35, 11 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Fixed it. A result of vandalism. --Wetman 03:25, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

foolish rant
After reverting vandalism by User:God_of_War, I received the following at my Talkpage, which I scraped off and deposit here, for someone more patient than I to deal with (Wetman 16:09, 9 January 2006 (UTC)):
 * "I have seen that you reverted my link from the Ares page. I am the God of War. I dare you to stand before me and prove that I am not." --User:God_of_War 15:15, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

"His favorite bird was the vulture."
I moved this sensible but original invention here. Is Ares ever termed "vulture-like"? Is the vulture ever called "bird of Ares"? Is Ares ever depicted with a vulture? The statement above could be rebuilt based on any of these and returned to the text. --Wetman 19:16, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

what happened to the amazons?
ares owned them, but then he gets owned by kratos why is there nothing about his role with the amazons?

what happened to the amazons?
why is there nothing about his role with the amazons?

the there they were in the cool but they had the fill the there they were in the cool but they had the fill the there they were in the cool but they had the fill the there they were in the cool but they had the fill

"Hallihourthus"?
I hardly know anything about the Greek language or its mythology, but some Googling shows that the name "Hallihourthus" is only used on this page (and mirror pages/sites), nowhere else. However, a search for "halirrhothios" (as I've found scouring the internet for information on this, er, story) yields many more results, apparently half relevant and in English, along with the suggestion of "halirrhothius" by Google.

Then there's the spelling of "halirrhotios" (or -tius), for which there is a stub on English Wikipedia.

Somebody care to verify which is the correct romanised spelling? Laogeodritt 20:41, 14 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Given the lack of responses, I've taken the liberty of changing this for the time being, as it seems correct. &mdash;Laogeodritt [ Talk 19:08, 27 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Halirrhotius --Wetman 20:28, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

ERROR: Translations wrong
In all other languages, this articles seems to link to "Hermes" instead of "Ares". Someone please correct, dont know how.Yarilo2 18:47, 24 August 2006 (UTC) ··thanksYarilo2 14:36, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Corrected one bit of vandalism, but missed another.
While I restored "Consorts and Children" (and, I think, used an improper summary, now that I see how it displays in the history page), I missed this one. Seems a bit odd to do two separate reverts in close succession, so: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ares&diff=prev&oldid=106361088 Abramul 20:52, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

incorrect
This isn't specificaly about ares, but Demeter and Dionisus are not Olympians. They did not reside in mt. olympia and are the god/goddess of the EARTH. 24.113.73.22 16:56, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Enyo and Ares?
Why does the article say that Enyo was Ares' sister and companion, and later say Enyo is ARes' daughter from an unknown mother? Watto the jazzman 06:52, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Ares' Thracian origin
I'm removing the second paragraph bit claiming that ''His birthplace and true home was placed far off, among the barbarous and warlike Thracians. (Iliad 13.301; Ovid) as Iliad 13.295-310 reads: On this Meriones, peer of Ares, went to the tent and got himself a spear of bronze. He then followed after Idomeneus, big with great deeds of valor. As when baneful Ares sallies forth to battle, and his son Panic so strong and dauntless goes with him, to strike terror even into the heart of a hero - the pair have gone from Thrace to arm themselves among the Ephyroi or the brave Phlegyans, but they will not listen to both the contending hosts, and will give victory to one side or to the other - even so did Meriones and Idomeneus, leaders of men, go out to battle clad in their bronze armor. Meriones was first to speak. "Son of Deukalion," said he, "where would you have us begin fighting? On the right wing of the host, in the center, or on the left wing, where I take it the Achaeans will be weakest?"''. The Ovid reference is too general. Crvst 19:22, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * When you read in the Iliad that Ares has gone to Thrace to arm himself, what is the bit that is missing in your understanding of the quote? The Ovid reference is to a remark in his Art of Love: I'll put it in. --Wetman 04:19, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
 * That Ares (along Phobos) went by Thrace to fight at the side of either the Ephyroi or the Phlegyans. There's no direct mention of Ares' originating from Thrace in that part (Iliad, book 13.301). As for the Ovid ref. I removed it as it was simply not in context (that was before you clarify it by adding the title of his work Ars Amatoria; nevertheless, in Ars Amatoria 2.9-2.12 we read: Thus Paris from the warlike Spartans bore/ Their ravish'd bride to Ida's distant shore./ Victorious Pelops thus in triumph drove/ The vanquish'd maid, and thus enjoy'd his love. Please, do read who Paris was). Crvst 07:34, 2 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Also, removing bit about him withdrawing to Thrace, as (after the previous removal) it seems out of context. Crvst 19:34, 1 June 2007 (UTC)


 * It's in the Odyssey, part of the episode narrated in Book VIII. Don't delete sourced material. We don't care whether or not it "seems out of context" to someone who hasn't read it. --Wetman 04:19, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It, indeed, seemed out of context (after my previous removal). Crvst 07:34, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Ares Birth
No mention of his birth and his twin?


 * Feel free to add it in yourself. I've never heard any myths about his birth or twin, so I can't help you; sorry. · AndonicO Talk 11:42, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

kratos
didn't kratos kill his step brother —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.161.45.57 (talk) 18:32, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

First Spartan
Hi, am I confused or is it true that Ares (or some other god) created the first spartan in full body armour? Please help me I want to remember what it was, but I can't find anything on the net. Mallerd 11:01, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


 * A remembering of the dragon's teeth sown by Cadmus from the dragon at the spring of Ares? That wasn't Sparta. "Son of Ares" is a generic reference to a soldier. --Wetman 12:33, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I understand my confusion: Spartes says: In Greek mythology, Spartoí (in Greek Σπαρτοί, literal translation: "sown men", from σπείρω speírō, "to sow") are a mythical people who were known to be Ares' children. The Spartans were a group of children that were descended from Hercules and Ares.


 * Thanks for helping me Wetman. Mallerd 13:57, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


 * In addition: In each case, the dragon's teeth, once planted, would grow into fully armed warriors. Mallerd 13:58, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Penguins WTF?
IS the penguins thing a joke or something? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.16.243.186 (talk) 01:18, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Are There Different Ways to Spell It?
I thought that the gods name was spelled "Aries", not "Ares". That's the way my teacher spelled it on my assignment, anyway. So, are there different ways that you can spell it?Ogdens (talk) 05:20, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Your teacher was confusing Ares with Aries the ram, the spring sign of the Zodiac. The pronunciation is the same in English. --Wetman (talk) 09:49, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

vandilism
this page has been vandalished 86.151.16.189 (talk) 20:09, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

City of Ares,Galicia, Spain. This enchanting fishermen town was built around its "ria" (bay) on the Northwest of Spain (Galicia). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.247.171.120 (talk) 07:29, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Polis
Hey guys. I added Ares' primary polis as Sparta, as a few sources have named it so. But if anyone disagrees, feel free to change it, or any other gods/goddesses I might've got wrong. These sorts of things are always up for debate.

summary of the life of ares
what the heck are u talking about i dont even now u you now what im going to beat u up with on hand behind my back if u now what i mean  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.237.90.131 (talk) 18:41, 21 April 2009 (UTC)