Talk:Argos, Peloponnese

Comments
I removed this paragraph that an anonymous editor misplaced at the bottom of the article. Feel free to incorporate the information in an appropriate fashion if it adds to the article. --Kbh3rd talk 21:12, 9 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Argos is a Greek city-state with a very interesting history. Argos is four miles away from the Argotic gulf, at the northeastern Peloponnesus. Argos was a major stronghold of Mycenaean times, which was the period of Greek history from about 1600 BC to 1100 BC. The pre-Greek name of its acropolis is Larrisa, which means literally the edge of a town or a high city. This reveals that Argos was a Pelasgian settlement. Pelasgians were groups of people who preceded the Hellenes and still dwelt in several locations in mainland Greece, and Crete. Foroneas built Argos, and he was the son of the first king of Argos, Inahos. Argos was the first formed town in Greece, as well as in Europe. It covered an area of 1000 meters squared. Argos is a really interesting city-state, and has an awesome history.

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I've read through the article and I find that it's a little odd that the creator would indicate that the Argos was a Mycenean settlement that was abandoned for 2000 years until the middle ages upon which a castle was built upon the acropolis. Yet, at the same time, tell us that Argos, supposedly abandoned, was shunned by the other Greek city states due to it's lack of involvement in the Greco-Persian wars. I have no doubt that Argos was abandoned in the Greek Dark Ages, but I also doubt that it was abandoned for two thousand years. Unless, of course, we're talking two separate locations. If this is the case, then please update the article to clarify the issue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.183.217.55 (talk) 05:05, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

References in Film
The plot summary doesn't appear to match that of Clash_of_the_Titans_(1981_film) or Clash_of_the_Titans_(2010_film) production. In the 2010 film, Zeus orders the destruction of Argos for Argos' definance of the gods. Danae is drowned by Acrisius and does not come back. Persus kills Acrisius. Perseus survives with Io. The picture in this section appears to be mis-placed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter lawrey (talk • contribs) 18:50, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

"medieval" and "modern"
The nineteenth century is discussed under the heading of "Medieval Argos" in this article. Obviously, that should be under "Modern". If distinction is wanted between 19c. and current, I would suggest distinguishing "Contemporary Argos" or "Argos Today" e.g. from "Modern" Ennod2009 (talk) 20:08, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Resistance to Ottoman occupation
IMO Medieval section should be extended. Sutton-Adams are a good source for that. What do you think guys? Aigest (talk) 08:20, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

More History
The vague references to antiquity don't give the full picture, I feel. For example, the article makes it sounds like Argos played no part in the Peloponnesian War, despite them being the major combatant in the Battle of Mantinea, and possibly some others. I don't know much about history, so I'm leaving this to others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.225.167.166 (talk) 14:55, 25 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll see if I can add a little to the ancient history section in the next month or so, as I am currently researching Argos's history until the end of the Roman period. Hopefully I'll be able to bulk out the article as far as the city's history from about 800BC to 600AD ish is concerned - with citations. If anyone is interested in looking at the early medieval period that would be welcome. Chilari (talk) 14:32, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Argos City Hall (Dimarhio) caption
I originally called it the "modern" city hall in the image caption to distinguish it from classical sites like the remnants of the boulouterion, but I think it is pretty clear from the image that this building, while neo-classical in style, is of more modern vintage with windows, flags etc., so city hall is sufficient. But, I believe the anonymous editor was at least partially correct in updating the caption. Unfortunately, the official city website is down right now, but they seem to be working on a replacement site that has scans of some official documents signed by the mayor of the new municipality of Argos-Mykines at "Public Building 9-11 Kapodistriou Street". The term used in Greek is Δημοτικό Μέγαρο (Dimotiko Megaro). The term megaro can mean "mansion" or "official building", and I have also seen it applied to shopping centres and other large complexes. When I looked up this address on Google maps, it was listed as 9 Kapodistriou, containing a branch of the Piraeus Bank. But since it is a multi-storey building, I believe that the government must be leasing one of the upper floors, which would explain the hybrid 9-11 address. I found another website that has some information on the history of the Dimarhio building and says that it is still in use. My guess would be that they are using both buildings, and that extra space was leased in Argos to accomodate extra staff from Mykines, but I can't confirm that at this point.--Jpbrenna (talk) 18:39, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress
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article improvements
There are many unreferenced statements, but this article is hardly unique in Wikipedia on that score (oh, brother!). Some missing information: 1) Argos was sacked with great damage by marauding Goths twice during the Roman Imperial era.  3) It was razed by the Ottomans during the Greek War of Independence. 4) A great silence of the Byzantine period in this article should be corrected. I'll try to improve the material with this info, but extra assistance would always be appreciated. 50.111.44.55 (talk) 11:57, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I've addressed some of these issues. Is there a Byzantine amongst us who could shore up the portion about Argos during this period? :-)  50.111.44.55 (talk) 12:38, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
 * There's also missing information about events from the modern era (1821 onwards). I'm adding them firstly in the Greek article and when done I will add them here aswell.--Jimkats (talk) 17:09, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

"Pelasgian" etymology
I have tagged a Pelasgian etymology for Argos as dubious. Beginning with Strabo, Larissa is generally held to be pre-Hellenic or "Pelasgian", but the consensus seems to be that Argos is Greek, and derived from an Indo-European ancestor that relates it to the Latin, Irish, Sanskrit and Persian words for silver, or else a corruption of another Indo-European-derived word meaning "field." The website that is cited does not cite its own sources and is primarily a fan site for castles located in Greece, not an etymological dictionary or linguistic study. While I support keeping the assertion that Larissa is pre-Hellenic, I think we can probably find a better source for this than the castle website.Jpbrenna (talk) 22:23, 20 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Agreed. I looked for sources and found nothing on the word Argos being pre-Greek. Larissa is apparently “Pelasgian”: The Larissa place-name had been derived from Pelasgian mythology but there's nothing on Argos. Deji Olajide1999 (talk) 13:03, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

herodoto falava de um sequestro de gregos pelos orientais que gerou rivalidades com a fenicia antes de troia mas nada os artigos falam e se vc solicitar em certas wikis tipo br eles te acusam de vandalismo tal o grau do despotismo red — Preceding unsigned comment added by 179.211.79.58 (talk) 10:29, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Argive revolution 370 BC
See nothing here. Richard Miles in the BBC2 2010 TV series "Ancient Worlds" (3 mins into episode 3) references it as an example of Greek cruelty. Worth the attention of an expert editor? Соловей поет (talk) 05:13, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm still trying to find out info about this, because I never heard of such situation. I'm from Argos, but I don't know the whole history in great extent. For sure there are several things that aren't written yet in Wikipedia.--Jimkats (talk) 20:57, 20 March 2023 (UTC)