Talk:Arguido

Possible deletion
Why is this page being considered for deletion? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.90.212.10 (talk) 15:01, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


 * See Articles for deletion/Arguido. Timrollpickering 15:21, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Note that the deletion discussion has been closed, overwhelmingly in favor of keeping the article. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 16:28, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


 * And the why is because IMO its just a translation of the word suspect but the community clearly disagrees, SqueakBox 02:38, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

This article can't be deleted!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by BolinhasFofas (talk • contribs) 09:54, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

It should be deleted. The word 'arguido' simply refers to a defendant in a criminal case. From http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A9u: 'In some legal systems, such as the portuguese one, the party claimed against is only called "réu" in a cívil process case, being called "arguído" in penal process.' The defendant need not always go to trial; in the preliminary investigation, it may be concluded that the odds of conviction are few, and if so the case is dropped. In all likelihood, some portuguese speaker unfamiliar with english terms thought such a page was needed. It happens often. 2.81.200.49 (talk) 05:51, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Remain in the country?
I have removed this statement "In Portugal when persons have been accorded this status they are required to remain in the country and report to the police every five days." since Sky News has reported that the McCanns' arguido status is no bar to their immediate return to the UK. TerriersFan 02:34, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Perhaps some further research inot this issue would be welcome as in my understanding most arguidos do have to remain in the country, the McCaan's (who clearly don't) seems an anomaly, SqueakBox 02:40, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


 * It is made clear here that the police have to apply to the courts to bar arguidos leaving the country. I'm adding it to the article. TerriersFan 02:46, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Well it should be re-added tot he article then becauise generally it is very true and we could add the bit about the police needing court permission, SqueakBox 02:49, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, reference 8, Sky News, conflicts with this but The Guardian is regarded as very reliable and is the later source. BTW there is not necessarily a conflict between the first two sentences of the final para since the BBC reported that the McCanns can describe their house in England as their place of residence (but I can't source it yet). TerriersFan 02:56, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure, but I don't recall that couple having ever been defendants in that case (which is what the actual word 'arguido' means.2.81.200.49 (talk) 05:40, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Suspect?
This seems quite a bad translation. Surely, a good detective suspects everyone, and yet no-one. The arguido is more a legal status with attendant protections. Even 'prime suspect' would be a better equivalent. DavidFarmbrough 01:22, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

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