Talk:Argument

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The "Some Greeks are logicians and some logicians are tiresome; therefore, some Greeks are tiresome." is true because all the premises and the conclusion is true even though tiresome is a moral jugement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boutarfa Nafia (talk • contribs) 15:02, 18 March 2022 (UTC)


 * While unlikely, it's still possible that a hundred percent of the tiresome logicians aren't Greek, though. Which, if true, would also imply that none of the Greek logicians are tiresome. 198.48.202.76 (talk) 21:28, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * 1. "Some Greeks are logicians and some logicians are tiresome; therefore, some Greeks are tiresome." is not a valid argument. Form is Some A is B, some B is C therefore some A is C. You might as well argue "Some dogs are animals, some animals lay eggs therefore some dogs lay eggs.
 * 2. An argument can be said to be valid or invalid, sound or unsound but neither true or false
 * 3. Statements are true or false, not arguments &mdash; Philogos (talk) 00:59, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Technically no, because if you think about it, they are technically "Starting-Point Arguments", and from counterarguments, creates an entire dialogue of statements/arguments about the subject discussed, for example Wikipedia Talk Topics, begins with a statement, arguments and counter-arguments, and ends with a consensus, there is a whole debate about whether it is appropriate to consider statements as arguments, some say "No, they are not the same thing", while others think that they are considered arguments. 177.105.90.20 (talk) 20:54, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

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