Talk:Ariel Atom

Street legal?
Is this car street legal?
 * Legal in UK. Not sure about other countries. Shawnc 00:12, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Legal in New Zealand with the road pack. Shawnc 00:23, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
 * May be legal in some US states: "Although not street legal, the Atom is available as a kit. That makes it eligible for registration and street driving in some states. Reports have suggested that several (including the model Leno ordered) have already been registered with the notoriously thorny California DMV." Shawnc 00:36, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

On top Gear
Should there be a mention of this car being raced against a Honda CBR-something on Top Gear? With the same engine, the Atom won by quite a few seconds. Counterfit

Top gear is a scripted entertainment show and no one outside the producers know if any of these results are factual.

It was raced against the 600rr. It's the least sporty of the 600 class (kawasaki's zx636r/zx6r, suzuki's gsx600r, yamaha's yzfr6/r6). The comparison, bikers argue, is unfair as the 600rr is the least fitting motorcycle to 'race' the atom2, suggesting either the 1liter kawasaki zx10r or suzuki gsx1000r. That way the race will be closer and we could compare the two vehicles better. GeorgeTsiros

Info Box
I know that it is stret legal in Oregon, the ashland oregon plant that builds them makes them legal for oregon, and in a way, legal for most states because oregon is rather strict in what is allowed for vehicles. Does anyone have enough information for a wikipedia car infobox to be added to this article? 84.65.86.111 19:13, 11 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Sure doesn't look like it. Here is the complete list.  We should have at least the important ones I would think.


 * Wikibofh(talk) 23:10, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

YouTube links
This article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it. Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed. I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy. In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed or you would like to help spread this message contact us on this page. Thanks, ---J.S (t|c) 06:22, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Versions
Information about the Ariel Atom and Ariel Atom 2, etc. --70.111.218.254 18:09, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Does anyone know why in US they use a different engine?
I remember watching Jay Leno talking about the small block Chevy engine for ariel atom. but I don't know why they bother. why not just use the original honda engine? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.116.227.144 (talk) 02:32, 11 March 2007 (UTC).

The Honda engine in the British Model is not currently imported into the US, and does not pass emissions standards. A GM Ecotec engine is used instead, offering the same horsepower with more torque. 75.80.45.241 01:48, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Additionally, the GM Ecotec was chosen as the primary engine for the US version of the Atom for a couple of other reasons. Firstly, The UK version of the Atom with the Honda powerplant allows for the weight of the driver in a right-hand drive configuration to offset the weight of the transmission as it's placed in the chassis. In a left-hand drive configuration, the Honda engine/transmission setup creates a situation where the driver sits on the same side as the transmission, creating a lateral weight disparity. The US version of the Atom using the GM Ecotec has a different lateral weight distribution. This allows for a left-hand driver side configuration without creating an inbalance to the chassis. Secondly, the Ecotec was chosen for the US version of the Atom because the Ecotec utilizes counterbalance shafts. In the Honda powered version of the Atom, certain engine RPM's will cause the chassis to vibrate due to the Honda's lack of counterbalance shafts combined with the engine mounted solidly in the chassis. The vibrations have been known to cause ancillary issues with electrical systems such as headlights, turn signals, etc. in the UK version of the Atom. In the US version, chassis vibrations are greatly reduced with the use of the Ecotec powerplant eliminating these ancillary issues.

Curb Weight
There seems to be some confusion over the weight of the vehicle. In the article there is a difference between the specification weight of 600 kg and curb weight of 456 kg. Road & Track lists 1349 kg (~615 kg) for the North American Atom with the supercharged GM engine. I weighed an Ariel Atom (North American version, Honda engine, normally aspirated) at 1305 lbs (~593 kg) on accurate corner weight scales. Sorry, but I did not make any record of the fuel load at the time, so the actual curb weight was higher than 1305 lbs, and certainly well above 456 kg. Part of the problem is the number of combinations of Atoms (market, engine, supercharger). 71.106.229.182 05:47, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

$35,000 Where???
Does anyone know where you can buy an Atom in the USA for $35,000? When they first came out I remember seeing prices like this, but a quick visit to their site shows prices in the $70,000+++ range. Check currency. £35k is often quoted for a top of the range UK one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.115.87.57 (talk) 22:10, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * £35k is about (or was at one time) $70,000 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.119.2.126 (talk) 00:00, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Ariel Atom 500
Does someone want to add a section for the upcoming Ariel Atom 500?

http://www.motivemag.com/pub/news/Power_to_the_People_Ariel_Announced_500-horsepower_V8_Atom.shtml JCDenton2052 (talk) 18:04, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Ads
There seems to be a little too much plugs for the Wrightspeed X1, which is just an Atom with an electric motor, not a completely new vehicle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.182.124.2 (talk) 22:51, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Exoskeletal construction
The second paragraph seems to summarize the meaning of "exoskeletal" as "the chassis is the body," but I think this is a very poor explanation of the concept, as this applies just as much to any car with monocoque or unibody construction, which is to say, nearly all of them. I'm still at a loss for what should go here, but I just wanted to point out this error. ce1984 (talk) 00:03, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair point. I've changed it to "the chassis is prominently visible from the outside". Anyone have a better succinct definition?Dino246 (talk) 04:29, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Units
I think this article should be written using SI units (that is km/h instead of mph, etc.). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.77.104.50 (talk) 17:04, 23 January 2009 (UTC)


 * As much as I prefer SI units, this is a British car which is also sold in the US. Both of these countries are still stuck in the stone age and use imperial measurements, so it is the most appropriate system for this article. Manning (talk) 16:56, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Length, Width, Height units.
Length, width and height should be written down in millimetres and not metres. It's standard to use millimetres because it means its a whole number (I image who ever filled out the box got the figures in mm). I don't know how to change it as its been done with some kind of code.(90.216.95.92 (talk) 02:15, 29 March 2010 (UTC))

"new old brother"?
I've just removed the following text from the article as I don't understand quite what it is trying to say
 * "Also in Japan on the 15th of January the Atoms new old brother hit 326mph. Also its still road legal and experts say that they do not think that 326 is not the atoms faster speed as they think it can go a lot lot faster."

If someone can make sense of it and rewrite it (ideally with a citation) then I've no objection to it being in the article. Thryduulf (talk) 21:24, 27 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Sounds like utter nonsense to me -- if a production car had hit 326 mph it would be all over the motoring press... – ukexpat (talk) 19:01, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Very confusing article...
First this: "... limited production Ariel Atom 500 V8 with a 500 bhp (373 kW; 507 PS) V8 made from two Suzuki Hayabusa engines." and then this: ''"... the Ariel Atom 500. It features a 500 horsepower 3.0 litre John Hartley designed V8 engine" '' Are Ariel Atom 500 and Ariel Atom 500 V8 two different models? If not, what engine does it have then? A John Hartley designed engine or two Hayabusa engines? Also it is impossible from two inline engines to make a single V8 engine so what is "made from two Suzuki Hayabusa engines" supposed to mean?

"Weight: 612 kg (1350 lb)" How is it possible four cars with four little to totally different engines to weigh the same? Which of all four versions weighs 612kg?

"Engine: 2.0 L Honda K20A1" Is this refering to K20A? Is this engine tuned by Ariel to output 245 PS instead of 201-225 PS?

General and historical information
We are Ariel Motor Company Ltd, creators and manufacturers of the Ariel Atom and Ariel Ace. We are new to Wikipedia and editing so please forgive us if we are beginners at this. We are trying to correct some historical inaccuracies in the Wiki entry and also provide up to date information. There seem to be several people providing updates to the page and we're pleased that you should take an interest and in the efforts everyone makes to ensure information is correct. If there are particular questions that someone needs answering or further information then please contact us and we'll try to help. Arielmotor (talk) 15:30, 19 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, I have questions - and answers to go with them. Firstly, if you represent Ariel in any way, shape or form - you need to read the following link WP:COI before you make any more edits.
 * Secondly, please stop inserting unsourced information into the article. To paraphrase - wiki is pleased that you should take an interest and in the efforts everyone makes to ensure information is correct.  To this end, please read up on the links Bahooka left you on your talk page, otherwise you run the risk of further warnings culminating in possible blocks.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 19:02, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

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