Talk:Arlington Cemetery station

Blue Line service over the bridge
Regarding the following:


 * In connection with the construction of the Silver Line, it is likely that at least some Blue Line service will be rerouted to the Yellow Line bridge. It is not clear how service will be retained to the Arlington Cemetery station after this switch.

This is not the first time I've heard this, regarding the routing of some Blue Line service over the Fenwick Bridge to Mt. Vernon Square or Greenbelt. We do, however, need a good source for it. I'm giving it a look... SchuminWeb (Talk) 01:47, 26 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Best I can find is this Q & A on the Washington Post Web Site:


 * "Court House, Arlington, Va.: When the Silver Line from Tyson's/Dulles Airport is in service, where will its eastern terminus be? Will riders have to transfer at West Falls Church to continue on into D.C., or will the train follow the Orange/Blue line? Will this only create more overcrowding in the Ballson-Rosslyn corridor? Does this also complicate things for trains going through the Potomac tunnel?


 * Lyndsey Layton: Hi Court House. The Silver line is being termed an extension of Metro from West Falls Church to the airport, so, no, there is no talk about riders having to transfer at that station to continue to downtown DC. And, yes, this scenario would both add to crowding on the Orange Line and complicate matters at the Rosslyn tunnel. Transit planners say one possible solution is to create a new Blue Line by routing most of today's Blue Line trains inbound from Franconia Springfield onto the Yellow Line. Maybe you'd still run a couple from Franconia-Springfield through to Rosslyn and inbound, but most would run over the Yellow Line."


 * Here's the link:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2006/03/02/DI2006030201266.html You need to scroll down to get to the quote.


 * On the other hand, it seems fairly obvious that some blue line service will need to be moved in order to make way for silver line service. And, this will improve service along the Western part of the Blue/Yellow line, since so many people transfer to yellow/avoid blue before pentagon in order to skip the detour through Arlington on the way to Downtown. The only costs of a switch are reduced service to the cemetery and problems for people making some cross-town Blue Line trips through Arlington. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.231.49.48 (talk • contribs).


 * Interesting source. I don't know if I'd use it, though, due to its being a bit of a we-don't-know-yet kind of response in itself. I'm sure something will turn up, though. SchuminWeb (Talk) 15:56, 27 August 2006 (UTC)


 * One more thing... in either case, though, I think a better place than here for it would be Silver Line (Washington Metro) or Blue Line (Washington Metro). SchuminWeb (Talk) 15:57, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

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Arlington Cemetery Metro station.jpg or Arlington Cemetery Metro.jpg
I have now changed the an alternative image (instead of File:Arlington Cemetery Metro III) to this far Superior Third party picture. This is also taken this month 2nd March, so is up to date and not 5 years old. --Rockybiggs (talk) 09:40, 16 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Your third-party station photo shows the far end of the outbound side of the station. It (A) doesn't show any architectural details of the station, and (B) it does not show the interlocking north of the station. Your argument over the photo's age does not hold water because the station has not changed architecturally during that time, nor has the area around the station changed since that time. SchuminWeb (Talk) 18:35, 23 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Just stop it now please, even the user:Golbez whom you invited to comment on this issue, stated your picture is worse. The picture (File:Arlington Cemetery Metro station.jpg) was not taken by me, it is far better, and not as old. The only reason i can see for the constant reverts is that you want a picture which was taken by yourself, which falls under wp:own. Once again stop this nonsense--Rockybiggs (talk) 21:04, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Furthermore to cover your comment regarding the `detail` of the station, but you also dismissed this picture(2) which is far more detailed than your picture. Which leaves me to believe (wrongly or rightly) that you will dismiss any picture that is not taken by yourself. Once again please step back and WP:Drop the stick and back slowly away from the horse carcass--Rockybiggs (talk) 22:02, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

First of all, Golbez made a statement on my talk page (User talk:SchuminWeb/Archive 17) that said it "may" be "marginally better", which does not make a commitment on the matter either way.

Secondly, in this diff, which you subsequently removed from your talk page, you were warned about incivility and accusing people of WP:OWN issues. Please discuss the pictures on their merits, and don't comment about personalities. I have given specific reasons relating to the photos themselves in relation to the Metro station in question, and you should as well.

And lastly, re: File:Arlington Cemetery Metro III.jpg, I indicated in this diff that the photo does not show as much of the station as File:Arlington Cemetery Metro.jpg. I said nothing of any specific details. SchuminWeb (Talk) 01:07, 24 March 2009 (UTC)


 * 1. He stated it was better.
 * 2a. The warning which i am not gulity of incivility, therefore the warning was not merited. As for wp:own issues, i know you have done some good work on washington metro, but if their were no wp:own issues you wouldn`t revert a better picture which was not your own. Simple.
 * 2b. Furthermore i did discuss the picture on merits and my edits were still blanket reverted with `I Disagree. I tried to mediate on the talk page and made my comments on the talk page way back on the 16th of March, then the reverts continued and only by the 23rd March was there a reply on this talk page. I have given the reasons more than once (lets face it pictures are all about visual as well), and again i point out Golbez stated more or less these pictures were better, please accept this and move on.
 * 3. This picture is better (File:Arlington Cemetery Metro IV.jpg), i suggest that this picture is now left on the page. Until you are in the area again and can take the `master` picture.--Rockybiggs (talk) 08:32, 24 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Now refered to WP:3O--Rockybiggs (talk) 09:53, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

I said it was marginally better; however, I think your behavior here has removed any ability for you to place it. --Golbez (talk) 10:09, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Golbez i may have got a little hot under the collar, when you see edits being reverted blankly. But i was amazed at your comments espacially for an admin, instead of defusing the situation, you refered to me as a dick, i frankly found this astonishing. The point of wikipedia is to improve this encyclopedia surely, if a picture is better add it, if an edit is not right change it. To now say ``your behavior here has removed any ability for you to place it`` considering you have already stated to me `you don`t like me`, tells it`s own story.--Rockybiggs (talk) 10:17, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The point of Wikipedia is to improve the encyclopedia within the bounds of the rules; let's not forget you logged out to continue placing the image and, in the process, violated 3RR. --Golbez (talk) 15:47, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The other user violated that too !--Rockybiggs (talk) 16:12, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Whoops, you're right, he did. I must have misread the hours before. I should have warned him as well. But because he did doesn't mean you can. Also, it's starting to be sickening that you two are continuing this truly WP:LAME edit war even while receiving third opinions. --Golbez (talk) 20:01, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Golbez, it is sick i agree, i haven`t edited this since i started the 3rd opinion process, and now i see the said user has reverted, unbelievable. Now i hope you can see the real situation that has been going on--Rockybiggs (talk) 20:39, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Third opinion

 * Both pictures have their good sides. Schumin's shows the stations architecture, the other one shows it being in use because of the train and has better lighting. Any chance you two can get someone to take a picture that combines both strong points? With a bit of luck the flickr user who photographed File:Arlington Cemetery Metro IV.jpg lives in the area which would mean he could be able to provide an alternative you're both happy with. -- Mgm|(talk) 12:09, 24 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I`d go for the merge option if another better image can not be found--Rockybiggs (talk) 13:03, 24 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Someone call for a 3O? In a nutshell, is this debating which of the 3 images is better for the infobox? Welshleprechaun (talk) 20:53, 24 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Welshleprechaun, im afriad in a nutshell, it is that simple too choose a picture for the infobox.--Rockybiggs (talk) 21:34, 24 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Yep! It is that simple. SchuminWeb (Talk) 23:43, 24 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm here from 3O and I favor the pic labeled SchuminWeb. I think picture(2) ought to be included in the article too, but the pic doesn't really say "Metro Station" to me. Neither does a pic of the end of a platform but mostly tracks going off into the distance. Cheers! Will in China (talk) 02:23, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I also favour the SchuminWeb image. The third party image does not really show much of the actual station. Picture (2) could perhaps also be included but I don't think the size of this article warrants two images. Regarding the age of the image. In some cases in 5 years a lot changes, but I don't think this happened here. Garion96 (talk) 09:05, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I favour the last picture (Picture (2)). The first one is too dark and the second doesn't really show the station. Welshleprechaun (talk) 13:52, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


 * SchuminWeb, why have you changed the picture when there is no clear concencous ? User:MacGyverMagic, favoured both / User:Will in China, favoured SchuminWeb image, but with picture(2) in the article / user:Welshleprechaun favoured picture(2).. If anything picture(2) should now be added to the article. Really bad form.--Rockybiggs (talk) 11:13, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Stop edit warring and wait until a decision has been reached on the talk page. Welshleprechaun (talk) 11:41, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify was that directed at myself? Just to confirm i have made no edits since i brought forward the third opinion request.--Rockybiggs (talk) 11:51, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * That was for everyone. We'll get nowhere with edit warring and can lead to a block. Which image is preferred by the majority then and why? Welshleprechaun (talk) 17:07, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

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