Talk:Arma people

I doubt what I heard is true, but there's a small community (about 600 alone) of Armas in the Coachella Valley, California. The first Armas families first arrived in the 1920's under French passports via Morocco and Spain, as they were employed in the area's date palm growing industry, but the Armas were mistaken for "Egyptians" and "Yemenis", or to an unknowing majority they were "black" people confused with African-Americans. All I know is the Armas are identified as a mixed people of Spanish or Andalusian, African and Arabic origins, long spearated from their European homeland for over 400 years...and their numbers in Mali and Chad are dwindling by migration to nearby countries like Nigeria or Guinea. The Armas people could be in the thousands across the USA and Canada, often merged with the African-American and Middle Eastern populations and are fluent in both the French and Spanish language, so they could pass for being "black" and/or Latino. + 71.102.7.77 (talk) 06:09, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Since you "doubt that it is true" and you have no references or citations for this, I'm going to remove the information you added to the article. Please find references for the information and then re-add such info. T L Miles (talk) 03:24, 18 March 2010 (UTC)


 * My apologies, TLMiles. This is indeed WP:OR on my part and that can also mean I discovered something new in the world of unlimited knowledge the internet has not found yet. I am not inventing or making things up, but I knew a co-worker of Malian descent claim to come from the Armas and he lived in Indio, California. his whole life. His paternal grandfather born in the 1910's came from then French Mali to this part of the USA as a boy in 1925. He grew up learning more about African history, but he was aware of Spanish or Moroccan ancestry was evident in his grandfather's bloodline. His grandfather's family originated from Qau, but it turned out to be in the Gao area and have travelled westward to Conakry or Dakar, Senegal to take a shipliner across the Atlantic and Caribbean (and through the Panama Canal) to arrived in San Diego, Cal. I'm sure there was immigration restrictions against black Africans, but the passports read 'French West Africa' and only 30 Armas were on the ship 'Guinea', most of them were racially identified by immigration officials as "mulattos". The Armas may be a minute portion of the European and American populations, but the Arma people had knowledge of non-African distant forebears and sought work or a new life in places like Italy and the USA. + 71.102.27.81 (talk) 08:04, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

By all means, publish this information on your own website: it is fascinating and should be widely known. But Wikipedia is a tertiary source: summaries of secondary sources. So it can only contain information referenced to secondary sources, published by mainstream or academic presses, or major news sources. Hopefully such sources will publish information about this soon, and then it should be included here. T L Miles (talk) 20:53, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

The Armas traced back their ancestral roots to Andalusia, and other Moorish colonies before the Spanish Inquisition of the Iberian peninsula by the end of the 15th century. The city of Indio has a “Little Africa” or “Nairobi Village”, the African-American neighborhood built in the 1940’s has five streets named for African features: Nile, Niger, Liberia, Kenya and Kilimanjaro. It can be a clue. The Indio city council’s diplomatic bond with the city of Cadiz, Spain is another; and the last clue is date palms, originated from the first Moroccan or Algerian shoots transported to the area in the 1920’s. + 71.102.11.193 (talk) 18:03, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

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DNA.
No DNA studies? --Yomal Sidoroff-Biarmskii (talk) 23:38, 28 February 2019 (UTC)