Talk:Armadillo/Archive 1

Vandalism?
I note from the history page that someone removed one of my edits under the heading of cleaning up vandalism. The edit was to remind readers that Armadillos are: I would suggest that these statements are factually correct and verifiable, not least by those amongst the Gauchos that eat Armadillos. As such, I don't see why they should be referred to as vandalism and thus removed.
 * soft on the inside, crunchy on the outside

It was also a useful and interesting pop culture reference. See Dime Bar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.66.176.101 (talk) 13:53, 12 May 2006

Pop culture references
Since a Donkey Kong Country boss is mentioned here, is it worth mentioning that Armored Armadillo, who rolled up into a ball to attack, was a maverick reploid in the first Megaman X game? What about the whole "almadirro" storyline in the webcomic Chugworth Academy?

Since this may be unimportant, trivial stuff not worth putting in the article, I'm just making note of it here and letting the more experienced wikipedians decide. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.250.4.250 (talk) 04:26, 15 December 2006 (UTC).

Armadillo Lovin'
Have just watched a TV program on armadillos. The article mentions they mate face to face, the TV program says otherwise. Actually the male mounts the female from behind, because of the difficulties of having a tail and a carpace when mating the male has a very long and prehensile organ. Granted this is the common south american armadillo, I don't know about the Texan species. --Chr1sday87 20:54, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

too much trivia?
sorry, what? --Bobyllib 22:48, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

More Vandilism? (april)
From the habitat section:
 * In 1978, the term "arm-a-dillo" was coined to incite wiskful propaganda against the Soviets (located in the U.S.S.R.). The phrase was a reference to a factory worker's claim that all animals would benefit humanity if they had opposable thumbs. Besides the numerous implications of societal commentary, this phrase sparked a lot of interest in the animal, simply due to the fact that it is spelled the same way.

Sounds pretty dubious, but is strange enough to MAYBE be true? Regardless, it is not in the right section and is unreferenced. Thoughts? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thepearl (talk • contribs) 22:17, 21 April 2007 (UTC).
 * I have been bold and removed the dubious trivia. It has nothing to do with armadillos, the animal, in any case. Man vyi 17:26, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Pink Fairy Armadillos
This article notes there are two species of PFAs. The PFA article itself is about a single species, Chlamyphorus truncatus. Is there another? Rojomoke 10:58, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

order
''Dasypodidae is the only family in the order Cingulata. Until as recently as 1995 the family was placed in the order Xenarthra, along with the anteaters and sloths. '' Apparently Cingulata is a suborder of Xenarthra:, Xenarthra Anyone want to clear this up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 17:14, 30 April 2006 (talk • contribs) SZadeh

Yeah, I thought armadillos were xenathrans.61.230.78.55 08:42, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

According to ITIS (www.itis.gov), armadillos are in order Xenarthra. ITIS makes no mention of Cingulata.66.185.77.160 16:50, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

I can find no other support either. Dora Nichov 13:51, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

A quick search on PubMed.org confirms that Armadillos are *still* classified as Xenarthrans, e.g. Genomics, biogeography, and the diversification of placental mammals (PNAS; September 4, 2007; vol. 104; no. 36; 14395-14400) "The Xenarthra includes the sloths, armadillos, and anteaters that today are restricted to South and Central America (although some Xenarthra, such as the nine-banded armadillo, have recently dispersed to North America)." [emphasis added] I will be changing the article in a moment. -- Limulus (talk) 03:14, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Edit
I removed part of an anon's contributions, specifically a sentence about armadillos not being marsupials, since this is non-notable (AFAIK, no one has ever claimed they are) and the following paragraph:


 * Some people have managed to go all the way to Texas to see an armadillo, failed to do so, and become unrecoverably despondent. These people are truly the saddest and most unfortunate souls among us and should be comforted during what certainly is the single most nightmarish tragedy possible for a person to  endure.  But endure they must...

Tuf-Kat 08:15, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)

I deleted this paragraph because it's a joke, seemingly the second one inserted into this page
 * In mating season, one mating behavior of the male armadillo is to flip himself over in an attempt to win the female's admiration. Occasionally the male armadillo will land on its head, causing no harm but undoubtedly decreasing the chance of a future with the armadilette he's suiting.

Andrewbadr 05:14 & :17, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I've altered a the text concerning the reproduction of armadillos, adding some citations of recognised literature and including some more information. The reproduction of aramadillos, and it's scientific value seems to me of particular interest, and perhaps this section of the page requires the attention of an expert on the subject. Scienceguy101 03:09, 20 Jan, 2008 (UTC) (The preceding timestamp was false -- in this case by an insignificant 4 minutes -- according to the history. Guessing at the system time may have some kind of purpose, but if so it cannot justify the possibility that it will confuse, for instance, anti-forgery bots. --Jerzy•t 03:29, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

What about a link to Armadillo Aerospace? Would that be appropriate here? ~L —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.162.130.163 (talk) 02:27, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Doesn't really have anything to do with the article, other than the obvious name. There's already a link for it at Armadillo (disambiguation) which should suffice.  Kuru  talk  02:34, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Removed a bit of information
Most of this was extraneous or stated elsewhere in the article. Please feel free to reinsert if necessary.

Are armadillo litters actually called clutches? A "clutch" usually refers to eggs. Lomaprieta 11:29 (2 edits), 7 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The wide-ranging edit LP refers to did not affect the "clutch" passage mentioned, in the "Armadillos and science" section, but it was later eliminated. --Jerzy•t 05:21, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

What predators?
Article should state what are the main predators of armadillos. Tempshill 02:22, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Article says they have no predators, but then lists how they escape predators.

Here is some stuff from a google books entry, which I had too much trouble extracting from the actual book (below is the search result blurb), so am leaving it for someone else :(

Wild Mammals of North America: Biology, Management, and Conservation - Google Books Resultby George A. Feldhamer, Bruce Carlyle Thompson ... - 2003 - Nature - 1216 pages Known predators on armadillos in Georgia and Florida include panther, black bear, bobcat, alligator, and dogs (Bushnell 1952; Layne 1976; Carr 1982; ... books.google.com/books?isbn=0801874165...

Tomfriedel (talk) 23:02, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Eggs
There is a wives-tale or myth about armidillos laying eggs. Can someone update the page to include a discussion of offspring? Bryanpeterson (talk) 17:55, 4 February 2009 (UTC)


 * This information is already in the article (last paragraph of the Habitat and Anatomy section). Anaxial (talk) 19:38, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Lifespan?
I notice that the fact-based section at the top does not include size or lifespan information...?

I understand that certain variables will change greatly from species to species, but a few things might be useful.

Virgored (talk) 17:19, 21 November 2007 (UTC) I have a black powderie substance in my yard, could it come from a couple of mating armadillos? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.19.194.123 (talk) 13:58, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Nine-Banded Armadillo
Despite claiming to be an article about armadillos as a whole, most of this article is focused on the nine-banded armadillo. I tried to make minimal adjustments, but did want to correct a few things. The diet, behavior, fossorial habits, and morphology of the different genera all vary more than most people realize. Euphractus —Preceding comment was added at 05:34, 17 November 2005

I'm doing some reserch for school and I was wondering how much the nine banded weighs? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Big spider freak (talk • contribs) 17:36, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Ontario???
Let's see a source or trim the claim. Oh...and the refs are all messed up format and numbers 4 and 6 are missing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.157.157 (talk) 06:51, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Dentition
The dental formula I found for the nine banded armadillo seems to contradict what the article states. The correct dental formula is 0.0.7.1/0.0.7.1 where there is considered to be a molar with neither any incissors nor canines. I found it off of a 1998 University of Nebraska State Museum survey of armadillos. Although I added the correct dental formula, the article needs to be amended, or the previous claim needs to be justified for another armadillo species. --Trapezoidal (talk) 08:57, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Mammals never have more than four, perhaps five, premolars. Could you be more specific about your source? My Neotropical Rainforest Mmamals (Emmons and Feer, 1997) and Mammals of Central America & Southeast Mexico (Reid, 2006) just say that there are at least seven undifferentiated teeth on each quadrant of the jaws, and that's also what the Mammalian Species account for Dasypus novemcinctus says. Ucucha 12:30, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Articles are inconsistent
Here it says "the Giant Armadillo grows up to 150 centimetres (59 in) and weighs up to 59 kilograms (130 lb)", while at Giant Armadillo it says "These armadillos typically weigh around 28 kilograms (62 lb) when fully grown, but a 32 kilograms (71 lb) specimen has been weighed in the wild. A typical length is 89 cm (35 in)...". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.186.39.121 (talk) 19:26, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Plagiarism??
someone more skilled than i please compare this article to the following:

The Armadillo: Kaieteur News www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/2011/12/11/the-armadillo/

no i don't know how to put this in as a hyperlink...jumped the gun i guess...large portions of this article are identical with the article on armadillos at this link, this seems rather hinky to me...if we are simply going to transpose another article just say armadillo and put the link...just my opinion...thanks208.193.185.22 (talk) 09:59, 14 February 2012 (UTC) the previous entry is from ruraltexas, literally and figurativelyRuraltexas (talk) 10:04, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * It's the other way around, they lifted the text from Wikipedia without attribution. It's a copy of the Wikipedia article as it looked in December 2011, and most of the sentences had been around on Wikipedia for years beforehand. --McGeddon (talk) 10:09, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * yeah i just figured that out about thirty seconds ago...apologiesRuraltexas (talk) 10:51, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem, it's worth checking these things. --McGeddon (talk) 10:55, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

large eyes?
i have an affinity for armadillos...i looked through all the references and am not finding a source that says they have 'poor eyesight but large eyes'...i have checked other online sources as well as hard-copy books of my own to no avail...i would like to rework this sentence, unless someone objects...besides it is a single sentence paragraph and should probably be incorporated into another paragraph at the least...cheersRuraltexas (talk) 12:13, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

edit
i am removing the bit about armadillos having 'poor vision but large eyes'...i see no reference that pertains to this statement and i have been unable to verify this online or in text...and it doesn't match my experience with the nine-banded armadillo which is the only armadillo we have around here...that said, to make a blanket statement that  is not indicative of all species is, imho, taking poetic licence...thank youRuraltexas (talk) 03:53, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

eyesight
added info in habitat and anatomy section regarding poor eyesight with a reference to a national geographic articleRuraltexas (talk) 08:55, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Food source?
I've read and heard on tv nd radio (from Jack Hanna, among others) that armadillos are a food source for humans in some cultures. I seem to recall something about throwing them into a fire to charr the hide and cook the meat, and then throwing it against a rock to crack the hide, and get at the meat. Cna we geta a source and section for this? ThuranX 04:55, 2 September 2006 (UTC)


 * It is eaten, roughly the way you described, by Indians and many rural populations in South America, and is regarded by some as an exotic delicacy in Brazil, though there are health concerns about the safety of its consumption in more urbanized areas as it often feeds on cemeteries. Lguipontes (talk) 08:44, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Habitat?
There is a heading for habitat but there is almost no information there. Could this be separated and put on its own with maps? Thank you. Risssa (talk) 20:22, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

There definitely needs to be an up to date map of the locations that armadillos are occupying. Thanks SilkyVermilingua (talk) 04:50, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

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Leprosy
The article claims that armadillos are "one of the only" species to also get leprosy. Either they are one of very few, or are the only &mdash; the two words seem exclusive. Can anyone with expertise chime in? -- IlyaHaykinson 01:24, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

___________ "One of the few" would be correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Euphractus (talk • contribs) 05:36, 17 November 2005
 * Press reports occasionally refer to leprosy being contracted by SW'ern males as a result of the sport or stunt of armadillo wrestling. We could use either some statistics on this, or discussion of it as a popular myth. I got
 * 10 for "armadillo wrestling" OR "10 for "armadillo wrestling" OR "wrestling armadillos" leprosy" leprosy
 * which is not much of a start in either direction. --Jerzy•t 05:37, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * What is this jerk talking about?? It sounds like botched cutting and pasting of Google-search results so sparse that any info would be hidden within the noise. Even if they're not just "jerking our chain". --Jerzy•t 11:17, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, more information would be nice -- there's nothing too surprising about dillos suffering from leprosy, but tales of people being infected via dillos sound a bit like urban myths. Leprosy isn't very contagious, medical workers can deal with lepers in close contact with fairly minimal sanitary precautions and not contract the disease. In fact, according to the WKPD article, most folks seem to be naturally immune and you have to be unlucky to contract it under any circumstances. MrG 65.102.246.199 (talk) 14:56, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Although I've never heard of people contracting leprosy from armadillo wrestling, I have heard of people contracting the disease from eating nine-banded armadillos. Most often this comes in the anecdotal form of illegal immigrants from mexico eating them on their journey into the US so I suppose it could also be just an urban legend. Any sources? Trapezoidal (talk) 08:29, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Evolution?
This article is disappointingly small. E.g. why is there no "evolution" section? Bhami (talk) 02:53, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

which armadillo?
hi, in the little golden book Bunnies' ABC (originally The Golden Animal ABC) by Garth Williams there is a picture of an armadillo at X for "xenurus", just wondering if anyone can tell me which armadillo that refers to so if/when a wikiarticle is made on this picturebook an appropriate wikilink can be made? i've found this: "Note on the occurrence of an armadillo of the genus Xenurus in Honduras that describes a xenurus armadillo but as my background is not scientific have been unable to work out which armadillo it is. thanks, Coolabahapple (talk) 06:24, 21 April 2019 (UTC)