Talk:Armillaria luteobubalina/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Ucucha 20:42, 28 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Lead could be a bit longer
 * Perhaps some taxonomy and phylogenetics can be added.
 * Now fattened. Sasata (talk) 07:25, 30 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Do you really need those three very short subsections under "Description"? Perhaps eliminate the subheaders.
 * Better now, but I still don't think you need two subsections for a three-paragraph section.
 * Working on it. I plan to soon expand both "microscopic characteristics" and "similar species" so they won't be so short. It'll have to wait for a library visit this weekend though. Sasata (talk) 17:37, 29 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Perhaps better place phylogeny with history, as you did with A. gallica.
 * Why not make it one section?
 * Done. Sasata (talk) 07:25, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

More to follow. Ucucha 20:42, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't the lead mention the South American occurrence?
 * Coetzee et al. (2003) say its distribution may be Gondwanan in origin. Why not mention that?


 * Thanks for the quick review pickup! I will work on these later tonight or tomorrow. This one will probably be headed to FAC sometime, so don't hold back :) Sasata (talk) 20:54, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I had thought so. I'll add some more comments over the next few days; no problem if you don't get to it right now. Ucucha 20:57, 28 April 2010 (UTC)


 * "suggested primary attack"—what is primary attack?
 * Clarified. Sasata (talk) 07:25, 30 April 2010 (UTC)


 * "Most Australian records referred to A. mellea, based on the presence of black rhizomorphs."—missing a word, and most Aus records of what?
 * Fixed. Sasata (talk) 07:25, 30 April 2010 (UTC)


 * gloss pleiomorphic, umbo
 * Done. Sasata (talk) 17:37, 29 April 2010 (UTC)


 * What does the bubalina part of the name mean?
 * "sinuate"—either link to wiktionary or explain, I think. It means it has the form of a sinusoid curve, I guess?
 * Yes; wikt'd. Sasata (talk) 17:37, 29 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Why don't you mention the two other Armillaria from Australia under "Similar species"?
 * Perhaps mention explicitly that the Karri and Jarrah forests are in WA.
 * "Those of the Karri forests (comprised largely of the species E. diversicolor) of the southwest have paler and yellower caps than those in the Jarrah forests (which contain predominantly Eucalyptus marginata) further north." - isn't this already explicit (bolded for emphasis)? Sasata (talk) 07:25, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, sorry for the oversight.


 * Why is Armillaria not italicized in "Armillaria root rot"?
 * Most sources actually don't italicize it for whatever reason, but some of the more important ones (like this) do, so I followed suit. Sasata (talk) 17:37, 29 April 2010 (UTC)


 * "One study showed that above ground examinations detected only 50% of the trees actually infected, leading to underestimation of true infection by 20–40%."—how does that work? Is the 20–40% an absolute percentage (the percentage of infection among all trees is 20–40% higher than expected based on above-ground examination)?
 * Yes, its an absolute percentage. I'm having difficulty rewording the sentence because it makes sense to me as it's written... please feel free to tweak as you see fit. Sasata (talk) 02:41, 1 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Does the paragraph about the aeration system perhaps better fit under "Description"?
 * I'm thinking that the aeration system is an essential aspect of its pathogenicity, so it's better placed where it is. Sasata (talk) 17:37, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The other argument is that this is part of its anatomy. Ultimately, virtually every part of an organism's anatomy has some function, but if you describe form and function (anatomy and pathogenecity, respectively, here) separately, it makes sense to put all aspects of form under form. But I can also see your argument and have no real problem with keeping it the way it is. Ucucha 17:49, 29 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Images and sources all look good.
 * I'll probably add another image, but the the pickings are slim for this particular mushroom. Sasata (talk) 17:37, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Ucucha 14:48, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The rhizomorph image is apparently not A. luteobubalina, since it was taken in Germany. Shouldn't you say that explicitly? Ucucha 11:58, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, done. Sasata (talk) 02:41, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Quite a few hits in Web of Knowledge—have you checked them? These are some of the recent potentially interesting ones.
 * I have checked abstracts for most of these. Unfortunately, my library does not subscribe to most of the Australian forestry-type journals, so I will have to order them prior to any FAC attempt. Sasata (talk) 14:38, 2 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: Forest health surveillance in Western Australia: a summary of major activities from 1997 to 2006
 * Author(s): Robinson, R
 * Source: AUSTRALIAN FORESTRY Volume: 71 Issue: 3 Pages: 202-211 Published: 2008
 * This is available as print holding only - I will take a look on friday d'oh! it was online - got it now..... Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:01, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Title: Forest health condition in New South Wales, Australia, 1996-2005. II. Fungal damage recorded in eucalypt plantations during forest health surveys and their management
 * Author(s): Carnegie, AJ
 * Source: AUSTRALASIAN PLANT PATHOLOGY Volume: 36 Issue: 3 Pages: 225-239 Published: 2007
 * added. Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:49, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: Eucalypt decline in Australia, and a general concept of tree decline and dieback
 * Author(s): Jurskis, V
 * Source: FOREST ECOLOGY AND MANAGEMENT Volume: 215 Issue: 1-3 Pages: 1-20 Published: AUG 25 2005
 * This one doesn't add anything more to what's already in the article. Sasata (talk) 14:38, 2 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: Rhizomorph growth habit, saprophytic ability and virulence of 15 Armillaria species
 * Author(s): Morrison, DJ
 * Source: FOREST PATHOLOGY Volume: 34 Issue: 1 Pages: 15-26 Published: FEB 2004
 * Bifurcating rhizomorphs = greater virulence. Now included. Sasata (talk) 14:38, 2 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: Short-term impact of thinning and fertilizer application on Armillaria root disease in regrowth karri (Eucalyptus diversicolor F. Muell.) in Western Australia
 * Author(s): Robinson, RM
 * Source: FOREST ECOLOGY AND MANAGEMENT Volume: 176 Issue: 1-3 Pages: 417-426 Published: MAR 17 2003
 * Added. Sasata (talk) 17:02, 2 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: Sequence variation in the rDNA ITS of Australian Armillaria species and intra-specific variation in A-luteobubalina
 * Author(s): Dunne, CP; Glen, M; Tommerup, IC, et al.
 * Source: AUSTRALASIAN PLANT PATHOLOGY Volume: 31 Issue: 3 Pages: 241-251 Published: 2002
 * Four distinct polymorphic groups within luteobubalina.
 * Added. Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:40, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: Molecular detection and differentiation of Australian Armillaria species
 * Author(s): Smith-White, JL; Summerell, BA; Gunn, LV, et al.
 * Source: AUSTRALASIAN PLANT PATHOLOGY Volume: 31 Issue: 1 Pages: 75-79 Published: 2002
 * added. Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:53, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: Fumigation of regrowth karri stumps with metham-sodium to control Armillaria luteobubalina.
 * Author(s): Robinson, R. M.; Smith, R. H.
 * Source: Australian Forestry Volume: 64 Issue: 4 Pages: 209-215 Published: 2001\
 * Added. Sasata (talk) 15:06, 2 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Title: Variations in structure of aerial and submerged rhizomorphs of Armillaria luteobubalina indicate that they may be organs of absorption
 * Author(s): Pareek, M; Cole, L; Ashford, AE
 * Source: MYCOLOGICAL RESEARCH Volume: 105 Pages: 1377-1387 Part: 11 Published: NOV 2001
 * Yeah, this one is good. I'll think more about what you said about the placement of the rhizomorph info before FAC; it looks like I could expand this info further and make it a subsection, or maybe even a section. Sasata (talk) 15:41, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Ucucha 11:52, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the further fixes. There are a few unresolved issues above that I think should be fixed for this to become an FA, but that don't have a bearing on the GA criteria, so I'm passing GA. I don't have access to Australasian Forestry or Plant Pathology either: perhaps Casliber can help? Ucucha 17:16, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the review Ucucha, I'll make sure those issues get dealt with before FAC. Yes, Casliber (or Hesperian) will probably be able to help. Sasata (talk) 17:48, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I should be able to get Aust. Plant Pathology in the next few days. Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:00, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Excellent! I will check the literature again to see if there's anything missing from the list here. I'll work on a distribution map as well. Sasata (talk) 05:22, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Right! Finally sorted access out. So have begun reviewing what I can get and adding. Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:52, 23 June 2010 (UTC)