Talk:Armor Games/Archive 1

Info to be added to the article
It'd be good to have more info about the history, which I'm having trouble finding, such as when it was created, etc. I'm going to add some info about the latest major update from several months ago. Miles Blues (talk) 01:34, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Article re-creation
The article was originally created a time when Armor Games was not notable enough to deserve a Wikipedia article. But now, it has an Alexa traffic rank of 1,000, gets twice as many page views as Newgrounds and hosts easily over a thousand different games, probably numerous thousands. By comparison, Newgrounds' Alexa rank is about 500 and AddictingGames' is 400, whereas Armor Games is 1,000, which, out of the millions of existing sites, is a very oft-visited site and notable enough for a Wikipedia page. Miles Blues (talk) 01:33, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * You may want to read the general notability guideline plus the specific guideline for web content to figure out what is needed. Alexa rank is not an indication of notability per se. Rklear (talk) 01:43, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Even without taking site traffic, alexa rank, etc. into view... numerous games have received multi-million number of plays, which is a lot. Also, well-known gaming sites, such as joystiq, ign, kotaku, etc. have written about armor games, which i added into references. Miles Blues (talk) 00:55, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Link to the article
Be sure to link to this article whenever a related article mentions it, or add it to any appropriate categories. Miles Blues (talk) 01:35, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

"Carlie's" Name
Well, I have some information to put share with whoever is interested in this article. The name of the site's community manager, is Carlie Whitehouse. Though, she is married to John Cooney, which has likely resulted in a name change. However I cannot be sure of that, as I have found no information.

[http://www.flickr.com/photos/danmcneely/sets/72157622257083237/ Name information found in photo titles. This Flickr account is that of the founder of Armor Games.] Some relevant information can be found here, in a blog post from the official Armor Games blog. The about page of John Cooney's website.

118.92.46.109 (talk) 06:17, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Games of Gondor?
What ever happened to Games of Gondor? Did they change their name to Armor Games, or did Armor Games buy Games of Gondor? --75.185.109.23 (talk) 22:36, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * On October 13, 2005, Games of Gondor said they would be moving to the new domain. They did not long after.  (I can't get that first Wayback page to work anymore, though; it worked roughly a year or two ago.  Maybe GOG/AG had it removed, which would be a shame because that's the only smoking gun we'd need.) --an odd name 03:29, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The archive started working (somewhat) again, so I added the relevant quote from that time, and made other overhauls, in [ these edits] . The removed category was empty and would have been covered by Category:Video game companies of the United States anyway. --an odd name 21:34, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * If I do remember correctly "Games of Gondor" was taken down due to copyright violations.

This two year old message board thread from Armor Games should help, as it has replies from the founder of Armor Games.

Also, in a recent interview with the videogaming blog Joystiq, the site's founder also explains why Games of Gondor was taken down.

118.93.231.6 (talk) 07:01, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

List order
I added the Sonny games (basically point-and-click RPGs with a zombie main protagonist) to the end of the list for now. I'm pretty sure they were made in-house and I think they got some press.

How should the list be ordered? Publish date? Alpha? Auto-sort with a wikitable (which is more complicated and thus not ideal for such a simple list)? --an odd name 21:14, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Reception, reviews, and an article plan
For a good while now, Mark Hurst (creator of website This is Broken and author of Bit Literacy) has had a bunch of Armor Games, um, games (This is the only level, Hedgehog Launch, ...) on the Good Experience Games list—games "that, in [Hurst's] opinion, offer a 'good experience' - good game design with an overall attention to quality".

I'll leave it here because none of Hurst, TIB, Good Experience, or Bit Lit have an article here (which is a slight surprise) and the review might thus be weighty even in a finished Armor Games article. Incidentally, I learned of Hedgehog Launch from the list (the main site, actually) when he stopped updating TIB.

I leave a possible plan of the article below; use and edit it as you like. --an odd name 21:39, 26 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Description
 * what does the site have now? its general structure
 * games can be browsed by genre, searched by name
 * forums, user rankings based on comments etc., blahblah
 * their blog--mentions new games, new staff, new whatever
 * some games can be downloaded--via fourth link at very bottom row of main page
 * Development
 * mention the staff and the inhouse game makers here
 * the list of games can go here, or (as I'd like) morphed into another paragraph if it's still small
 * History subsection
 * the GOG shit, the change point (where I'd link current ref 2 a.k.a. "the smoking gun")
 * left corner had a random game, but changed to an ad for one or more "Web Game"s a month or so ago--link to archives before and after
 * the joystiq interview can be useful
 * Reception
 * I forget if the joystiq interview had opinions of the site
 * jayisgames? Good Experience?
 * I think your plan for the article is good and would cover everything that should be. Most important thing is finding reliable sources to obtain all of that information.  Miles Blues  (talk · contribs) 16:00, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Ugly list
Is putting a massive list of Armor Games's hosted games here really necessary? If we need a list of all its games, the site itself does a far better job (searchable, sortable, so on); if we must categorize other games' articles, that's what a category is for (something like Category:Games hosted by Armor Games). Right now it just echoes the trainwreck that happened when someone plopped all 150 tracks of the Bayonetta game soundtrack into its article.

Concentrate instead on describing the elements and layout of the site, and whatever history it went through (with a few hit games interspersed), then link to the category as a See also or such. That would be elegant. --an odd name 07:07, 6 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree. I limited the list to "Published or sponsored" as hosting alone doesn't imply a direct relation to armor games. Furthermore i removed games that aren't individually notable as they don't have their own article. What is left is a list of 5 games (3 series) that are individually notable while having a direct relation to armorgames. Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 17:24, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * It seems to me that the list morphed into something terrible. I am removing all games that do not have an article. Ryan Vesey (talk) 13:52, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Table
I support the table. I think it's good for displaying this sort of information. Benjamin (talk) 07:00, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Did someone suggest removing it? I'm confused what you're supporting, -- ferret (talk) 12:54, 12 July 2019 (UTC)