Talk:Armored Core 4

Attention All
I have purged a large ammount of old garbage data from this article at this moment. I will be searching the AC articles for more to clean up. --Cleave and Smite, Delete and Tear! (talk) 23:08, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

General Discussion
please don't add that this is PS3 only until official confirmation. thanks.
 * Yeah, FROM SOFTWARE just confirmed the on their sitethat this is coming for both Xbox 360 and PLAYSTATION 3. Mircosoft of Japan also confirmed it for the 360. I think that's offical as it gets, barring any cancelations from now till March.--- Cry On 20:59, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Stupid bot doesnt think im constructive?

 * i didnt really get any clues about gameplay, just a giant set of infos about the story... everything from table of contents to reception. i still dont know if i want the game or not, tx alot wikipioedia (jerks)66.102.200.104 (talk) 07:42, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Cleanup
I attempted to clean the article up, which basically meant removing most of it. Wikipedia is not a list of weapons and other game info. It should briefly describe the gameplay and maybe a story, but the story should be brief and concise. --Cmsjustin 13:49, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't have an account so I have to comment this way. If you look at the Chromehounds page it is MUCH more informative that your version even going as far as talking about online tactics used.*
 * Props to whoever reverted the article. Furthermore, after looking through Wikipedia's style guides, the article on "What Wikipedia is Not", etc. I've found nothing to substantiate your claim that a list of weapons and other game info is not valid material for a Wikipedia article.Rurouniyuudai85 15:11, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Listing every corporation with a logo for each in the game is ridiculous. Pick any game listed in WP:GA. For instance: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. There are so many individual items in this game: weapons, areas, organizations, businesses. The ones that are listed in the article are done so in a tasteful paragraph format, instead of huge lists with a picture for each one. Per WP:RV and WP:3RR I will leave the article alone for the rest of the day, I just hope the majority comes to their senses. Cmsjustin 15:46, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Mayhaps some of the minor corporations don't need pictures. However, the weapons list are certainly not excessive as far as I can see.  They are by no means complete (nor should they be), as they are just lists for major "characters" (i.e., the starting ACs), and the same goes for the lists of the major corporations.  Not sure if you've ever played an Armored Core game before, but the actual amount of parts is almost beyond reckoning, so as I said, this hardly seems excessive.  Certain terms in the glossary may be unnecessary as well, but as I am a relatively experienced contributor to Wikipedia as of right now I leave these to the more experienced.Rurouniyuudai85 16:25, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The Gameplay Features of the article needs to be either cleaned up or removed, because it's of particularly low quality in terms of writing. I've been trying to, but every edit I've done had been revised by an admin and now they're trying to block me, so I've just given up. -- KahranRamsus 01:42, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Gameplay Features cleanup
I'd have to agree with Kahran that the gameplay features section isn't so great. Before I try to edit anything, though, I'd like whatever admin keeps reverting it to explain the justification for doing so, so that I don't do anything wrong. Rurouniyuudai85 21:08, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I tried just deleting the section out-right three times already because it's 1) poorly written and 2) is already covered in other areas of the article, but they don't seem to get it, so I'm leaving it as is because I'm going to get banned if I try it again. Banned for cleaning up and article, who would have thought? -- KahranRamsus 05:30, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I believe it may be because you didn't document the change in the edit notes...it seems obvious why you made the change, though. *shrug* Rurouniyuudai85 13:19, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Article split suggestion
I think this article needs to be split. For an example see F.E.A.R. and List of F.E.A.R. characters & organizations. I think F.E.A.R. is a good example as it obtained WP:GA status. My point it that Characters, corporations, and terms do no belong in this main article.--Cmsjustin 00:30, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a good idea. Rurouniyuudai85 23:07, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure. Normally Armored Core characters aren't really all that developed enough to warrant their own articles.  Normally one or two sentences in an article about the game, or at most a paragraph is needed for them. --KahranRamsus 05:32, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Individual characters on their own wouldn't warrant seperate articles, but perhaps an article "Characters in Armored Core 4"? Or mayhaps something similar for the corporations? Rurouniyuudai85 13:59, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Please recombine the articles
I noticed the List_of_Armored_Core_4_Corporations article. Its inappropriate as the article has no basis outside of the game and doesn't need a seperate dedicated article.

Differences between versions?
I think there should be some mention of differences between the 360 and PS3 versions. I know that for one, the 360 version supports voice chat online whereas the PS3 one doesn't. I don't have a source for this as of yet, but I'm sure someone does and knows of more...132.19.75.25 08:44, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

PS3 version does not have voice chat. 360 version also has slightly better framerate. http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/sim/armoredcore4/review.html?q=armored%20core%204&tag=result;full%20review;0 Detha 07:29, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Answer
huhg000270 I'll try to see that. If I would just be able to find any information.

Answer
Is this in reference to the versions? Rurouniyuudai85 13:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

hugh000270
No. By the way, I'll try to create now the list of corporations article.

Missing Storyline
Im just reading the article, and the storyline part is missing. It jumps from the spoiler warning to the characters.

Turns out someone vandalized that section. The section is now back KBi 09:04, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

New Features
I think the New Features may be unpropriate here in this article. Well, I created a article which lists the new features of the game.

Well, if most of you guys think it is inappropriate, better put a tag on the article.

For the storyline, there should be on the Armored Core 4 site.

Plagarism
Much of the information from this article appears to be directly plagiarized from the official website. cacophony ◄► 03:45, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

i think its good that the information was gotten directly if you suspect plagerism add a link to that site in the bibliography at the bottom -doom

Achievments
Whoever put it here, I will remove it at this article.

Picture format
It should be noted that the picture format of the 360 version is 1080P.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that just after UPSCALING, and not the native resolution?Theorycreation (talk) 18:02, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Funny Line

 * The player can now fight on water unlike past AC games where the player would fall straight to the bottom if contact was made (that is, the player was not given a chance to try to recover), as if the water was a living, metal-hungry beast that steals your AC and leaves your drowned corpse for the carnivorous fishies." Haha, I am posting this here for posterity. 99.160.9.30 (talk) 23:35, 30 June 2009 (UTC)