Talk:Arnaud de Borchgrave

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Numerous critics contend that the Times, which is owned by Rev. Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church, itself spikes stories viewed as left-leaning in order to impart a right-wing bias to its news pages.

These critics include Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, whose web site quotes DeBorchgrave's admission in a May 6, 1987 Washington Post article that the Times loses money and is subsidized by Rev. Moon. Rev. Moon also admits, even brags, that he has poured hundreds of million of dollars into the money-losing paper in order to create a newspaper that has "a distinct conservative outlook - or more correctly, [a] God-centered outlook."

Not sure where the above belongs. Is it a POV arguing that the premise of The Spike is incorrect? Is it mere tit-for-tat, saying "we're not biased but you are"? How can we make this text neutral? --Uncle Ed 19:55, 19 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Hitler Election
"Of course, William Jefferson Clinton never received more than 42 percent of the popular vote and yet everyone acknowledges that he was "elected" President of the United States." This is incorrect, in 1996 Clinton received 49.2% of the popular vote.

Copy
why is a bunch of stuff copied from http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Arnaud_de_Borchgrave ? we need to add sourcing to satisfy GFDL... Sasquatch t|c 23:54, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Bunk
The section about how the TImes has grown influential in Washington is BS. According to this list (http://www.accessabc.com/reader/top150.htm) the times is the 114th most popular newspaper in America. Considering the fact the Washington Post is the 3rd and the Times has never turned a profit seems to indicate this article is heavily POV biased.

The statement that de Borchgrave caused the Times to become "more influential" in Washington politics is vague, unsourced, and quite honestly not true. Even if the circulation has barely increased, that says nothing of causation, especially for a paper that has never come out of the red. The Times is a marginal paper with a anemic readership. While I suggest that someone put in a section comparing the Time's circulation to other papers in smaller markets (San Antonio Express News, Sacramento Bee, Fort Worth Star Telegram ect) at the very least I am taking out the part about it "increasing in influence." Cfoster05 04:05, 30 August 2006 (UTC) cfoster05

quotes removed
I cut this out of the article:


 * In 1978 he told a Covert Action Information Bulletin editor:


 * … he considered his "key, best sources of information" in the world the heads of "intelligence services in Washington, London, Tel Aviv, and Pretoria, each of which I stay in close contact with." Despite such open reliance on close intelligence ties, de Borchgrave claims coyly nowadays that he spurned two CIA recruitment approaches.
 * —Louis Wolf, Fred Clarkson, op. cit. p. 35.


 * Asked whether the United States engages in disinformation, de Borchgrave said that present and former U.S. officials trying "in a free society… to put the best face possible" on what they are doing or did in government is not disinformation "That is called management of the news."
 * —Louis Wolf, Fred Clarkson, op. cit. p. 35.

I am not sure what the point of these quotes is. If something is being said about de Borchgrave it needs to be made more clear and sourced. Thanks. Steve Dufour 14:56, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I removed these refs as well, CovertAction is not the best of sources: *William Preston, Jr. and Ellen Ray, "Disinformation and Mass Deception: Democracy as a Cover Story," Covert Action Information Bulletin, Spring-Summer 1983, No. 19, pp. 3–12 (contains photo of Borchgrave in "Rhodesian army gear, one of his favorite outfits").


 * Louis Wolf and Fred Clarkson, "Arnaud de Borchgrave Boards Moon's Ship," Covert Information Information Bulletin, Summer 1985, No. 24, pp. 34-35.
 * Intangible2.0 23:52, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

UPI in 1947?
The article says, "In 1947, he was appointed Brussels bureau chief for United Press International." UPI didn't exist yet at that time. Presumably he was working for one of its predecessors, United Press or International News Service. I don't know which one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pha telegrapher (talk • contribs) 02:29, 21 December 2007 (UTC)


 * UPI has been around since 1907, or so they say. GrizzledOldMan (talk) 23:24, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

BLP violations removed
These edits are clearly WP:BLP violations - WP:WEIGHT, WP:COATRACK, WP:RS, WP:NPOV, etc, etc. "Bogus" is a defamatory and potentially libelous word to use in a BLP.

Please read WP:BLP guidelines before making edits to BLPs. GrizzledOldMan (talk) 22:07, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Not sure if this is worth including
Probably not, as I doubt Counterpunch is a reliable enough source for allegations about BLPs, but for the record, I've just discovered this article:. It alleges that de Borchgrave, essentially, distorted the truth in the runup to the beginning of the Iraq war in 2003. Robofish (talk) 21:55, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Sources for plagiarism allegations
For reference and possible inclusion: Thoughts? MastCell Talk 20:00, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

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Weak references
A bunch of citations go to a speakers' bureau site, which is hardly reliable. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 02:15, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

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Genealogy section
There is an omission somewhere in the description of A d B's parents or grandparents. RichardBond (talk) 19:36, 23 January 2023 (UTC)