Talk:Arnhem Land

Arnhem
There appears to be a relationship with the Dutch city Arnhem? Can anyone confirm or weaken this claim? Soothing R  21:48, 17 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Indeed there is. As per the text, the region was named after the 17thC Dutch ship Arnhem, which under the command of Jan Carstensz made the first confirmed European sightings of the land. The ship Arnhem in its turn was named after the Dutch city.--cjllw | TALK  22:38, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

'Arnhem'
What's the etymology of the word 'Arnhem'?
 * Check Arnhem.[[Image:Weather rain.png]] Soothing R  13:35, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

'Arnhem'
Why arn't whites alowed into arnhem land. There's no where in Australia that specifically excludes aboriginals from entering —This unsigned comment was added by 58.6.125.8326 March 2006 (talk • contribs).


 * My word. Firstly, entry is restricted and subject to land council approval (and restrictions apply equally to any person not recognised by the council, Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal alike), and is not forbidden outright. Secondly, if you were to pause for thought for a moment, surely you would be aware that other types of land tenure also have restrictions on who generally can enter a land, the circumstances under which they can do it, and what they can do when they are there. Think for example of national parks and protected areas, certain crown lands with military, govt or other restrictions, etc etc. In particular, access to lands under pastoral lease or private freehold is not of course free and unrestricted- so why should the legally-recognised traditional owners of Arnhem Land and other places not be allowed to authorise and regulate access and be protected from trespass? It is not (as you seem to imply) a matter of discrimination, but one of (belated and only partial) land tenure recognition.--cjllw |  TALK  03:06, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Arid climate?
Does Arnhem Land really have an arid climate like the Grand Canyon? If you look at satellite pictures of the region or maps, obviously some of the coast is covered by swamps. Arnhem Land is also close to Indonesia and Papua New Guinea, so shouldn't some areas be wetter and more humid? &mdash; Stevey7788 (talk) 23:35, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Jabiru
Jabiru is not in Arnhem Land, and as such is not a center. It is not even on the border. billbeee 20:22, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Yolgnu people
Changed them from being "one of the few who have succeeded in maintaining a vigorous traditional indigenous culture." to being "one who have succeeded in maintaining a vigorous traditional indigenous culture.". The "of the few" is only needed if you're judging how successful the many and various indigenous cultures are today.Menswear (talk) 07:31, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

5 Regions?
Intro refers to Arnhem Land as being one of 5 regions of the NT, but Category:Regions of the Northern Territory has only got 4 entries. Presumably the missing region is the bottom end. I'm not sure whether it is a valid category anyway eg. the basis for the regional divisions seems unclear - are they landforms? No. Climate? No. Political? No. Anyway...its not a big deal. Anyone have any ideas? This article has enormous potential. My newly added photos aren't great quality unfortunately. A location map is badly needed here.--Glen Dillon (talk) 15:30, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

new map & other pics
Added a locator map which was needed here. I did it myself based on a free aust. template to which I added a rough photoshop extraction/trace. My cartographic skills are very crude. Two problems that are beyond my Wiki skill level: the locator map is obviously too large for the info box. Can someone else reduce it? Also - I've pushed the existing coast photo further down but someone with better layout skills might want to do some rearranging.--GlenDillon 05:22, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Map now resized & tidied up the placement of some of the other graphics. Info box had 1623 as the year of establishment, which was when the Dutch ship explored the coast, but didn't seem appropriate given 40,000 years of 'traditional ownership'.--GlenDillon 12:18, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

main section citation suggestions
I'd like to see some citations for this bit: " Many Aboriginal groups moved to usually very small settlements on their traditional lands, often to escape the problems (alcohol, petrol-sniffing, idleness) on the larger townships. While beneficial to the Yolngu, these outstations are extremely costly for the taxpayer. These population groups have very little western influence culturally speaking, and Arnhem Land is arguably one of the last areas in Australia that could be seen as a completely separate country. Many of the regions leaders have called and continue to call for a treaty, that would allow the Yolngu to operate under their own traditional law."

Also suggest rewording this to maintain NPOV, verifiability etc. Knittea (talk) 04:20, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

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What is Arnhem Land?
Arnhem Land is not one of the five regions of the NT; East Arnhem is one of these regions but not the whole of Arnhem Land. People are not yolgnu in the whole of Arnhem Land, instead, a very broad variety of languages is spoken here

The area overlaps with the Arnhem Land Aboriginal Land Trust.

Local government areas are called West Arnhem and East Arnhem but do not cover the whole of Arnhem Land. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clembress (talk • contribs) 08:58, 22 September 2019 (UTC)