Talk:Aroostook War

Treaties
According to Rush-Bagot Treaty, that treaty ended the Aroostook War, and the Webster-Ashburton Treaty page claims only to have resolved the underlying conflict. Is there a reason not to change this to match that? I don't know much about the events, so I might be missing something here.

lumber disputes
It is interesting to see the similarities of historical lumber disputes to the present day dispute regarding softwood lumber.

The way I have heard the one death...
...I've always heard it was a cow that got shot, not a pig. I must have been seeing things, but I remember reading that in the blockhouse near the mouth of the Fish river.

Lt Governor -> Governor
I changed Lt Governor -> Governor in the passage below, since pre-confederation provinces were headed by Governors rather than Lt Governors:

"The journal entries of the newly appointed Lt Governor of New Brunswick record the destruction and comments that New Brunswick's survival would depend on the vast forests to the west (the area disputed with the United States)"Chignecto (talk) 19:36, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Map?
A map would be good for this page, can anybody add one. Awiseman 20:54, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Your wish has been fulfilled!--216.7.248.254 20:16, 11 April 2006 (UTC)


 * The map you uploaded is in violation of copyright. Removed. &mdash; Saxifrage &#9998; 00:41, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Ok, can somebody add a map that isn't in violation of copyright? --Awiseman 07:20, 28 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Let me track down some old research I did for a paper on this subject. I think I might have a map from a government source or something past copyright date. Zessa (talk) 20:43, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Ideas
What was the war actually about?


 * Mostly it was a border dispute that was solved by diplomacy rather than warfare. It was also a step in the direction of the English crown recognizing and dealing with the US as a sovereign nation. At least, that's what my paper was about LOL. Zessa (talk) 20:45, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Reference
I've added a reference from Google Books, I only used it for a single item of information but there is a lot of other information there.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 00:35, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

WP:CANADA Assessment
I have assessed this as Start Class, as it contains more detail and organization than would be expected of a Stub, but requires many more references and inline citations. I have assessed this as mid importance, as it did define part of the boundaries of present-day Canada. Cheers, CP 16:30, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism
Apparently this conflict involved the Korean peninsula, Calhoun of Britain, and was solved by local whores (probably among other things I haven't read yet). I have no idea what to edit it back to, so I leave it to someone more knowledgeable. --66.66.212.182 (talk) 09:04, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I made the necessary corrections (talk)

Winner/Loser?
The article states "Ultimately, the real winners were the original Brayon (and Native) inhabitants of the region, who saw their territory reap the advantages of occupying land in both the American state of Maine and the British colony of New Brunswick." Curiously, the article with regards to the Webster-Ashburton Treaty claims the opposite. So what is it? Were the Brayon/Natives winners or losers? You can't be both. -- fdewaele, 4 March 2010, 19:20 CET.

Wow! This article needs total replacement.
Whoever wrote this had a few bits and pieces of the story, didn't know what some of the terms and places meant, didn't check all the dates and just fudged it. As someone who grew up there, knows the history, places, and events, I don't know what to say but let's scrap this article and start over again. I never heard of the name "Pork and Beans War" in my life. I don't know how a 30 year dispute was "quickly" settled. Where do you get the idea of a secret propaganda campaign? Violent lumberjacks? A Massachusetts Land Agent "returned" to Fredericton? "Brayons" was an insult. The "République du Madawaska" was a name made up over a century after the fact. The "John Baker flag" was actually used as the model for the "République du Madawaska" flag being sold today. Yes, John Baker flew a flag, but it was NOT the Stars and Stripes. It was a design of his own making. Only after the British agent asked him what that flag was, and he replied that he was an American, THEN the British arrested him. Where do you get the idea that we fled into the woods? Quebec claimed Madawaska? New Brunswick, yes, but Quebec? There are a bunch of unproven stories here, often repeated, but I've never seen evidence to prove them. So in the end, us, um, [another word for donkeys] lost and we're "reaping the benefits" of being split in half? What benefits? Being hassled by Customs when Canada and the U.S. are having trouble negotiating an environmental treaty? Or whatever one side or the other is upset about today? If you can remember the potato blockade, you're probably qualified to rewrite this article. And yes, you MUST be able to complete the line "Tout chante ici ... " and spell her name correctly. If you don't understand either of the last two sentences, then you clearly don't know who we are, or what our history is. And remember, a one book American history published by the likes of Houghton Mifflin, is NOT going to be your best reference. However, a recent publication specifically on the "war" itself, by a local author, THAT would be a good starting point. Go to any library in the Valley, you WILL find books there that tell the real story without insulting anyone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.192.154.148 (talk) 13:22, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

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Bears
I am changing the phrase "killed by enemy bears" to "killed by bears." Argentine84 (talk) 19:00, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Last serious conflict?
This says it was the last serious confrontation between the US and UK. The Pig War of 1859 is surely quite similar? It also saw armed confrontation and was eventually resolved by a border treaty awarding the San Juan islands to the US. Neither was serious, but if this counts as ‘serious’ why doesn’t that? At the very least this should be clarified. Other than that I’ll change it. Harsimaja (talk) 00:48, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Madawaska War
This term was questioned. I added one reference to the article - here are some other references that use the term.-- SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:34, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * https://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/henry-d-kingsbury/illustrated-history-of-kennebec-county-maine-1625-1799-1892-gni/page-98-illustrated-history-of-kennebec-county-maine-1625-1799-1892-gni.shtml
 * https://gahistoricnewspapers.galileo.usg.edu/lccn/sn90052046/1839-03-28/ed-2/seq-1/
 * https://digitalmaine.com/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1154&context=pdp_1898 (page 3, column 4, Harmon obituary)