Talk:Arpa (river)

Question
Is this the same as the Arpaçay River? According to this, there are two rivers—is this the "Arevelyan Arpa"? Khoikhoi 06:35, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmm not too sure but i think thats in Turkish so im not sure maybe someone else can verify this. Nareklm 06:38, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Me neither. We should verify at some point. They could be different tributaries maybe. Baristarim 06:46, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I know "çay" can translate to "stream" or "brook" in English. Also see the Deli Çay River article for an example (which translates to "Crazy River River").
 * "In 1920, the Turkish Nationalist forces took Kars back. The Gümrü treaty signed December 2, 1920 placed the present border along the Arpaçay River (or Arpa river) and the Araks river (Araxe river). Thus the Nationalist gained control of the 750mm line and of the 5-foot gauge line as far as Akyaka." Source If you search google for "Arpa", "Arpi" or "Arpaçay River" Arpa River gets the most hits. Nareklm 07:01, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The thing is, if the source that I found is reliable, there are apparently two Arpa Rivers. Perhaps this article is about the one that originates in Artsakh. Khoikhoi 07:04, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Well if there Armenian they would obviously refer Artsakh in Armenia so im not sure ill review there discussions. Nareklm 07:09, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * It seems there are two rivers one coming from Lake arpi, lake sevan and artsakh so the articles should stay separated. Nareklm 07:12, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, but I'm trying to find out which is which. Also, internet fourms unfortunately don't meet WP:RS... Khoikhoi 07:16, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Russian article translated
"Arpa (ARM. ????) - mountain river in Armenia and Nakhichevan' AR, the left tributary Of araksa. It flows over the narrow and deep gorge, in the average flow the valley is enlarged, passing in the lower flow into the plain. Basic nourishment by snow and rain waters. It is used for the irrigation, a number GES is built on the river, reservoir Tyuey kechut. Is built tunnel by the length of 48 km for the transfer of waters of Arpa to Sevan lake."

Arpa ???? It flows po&#y'0;territorii 	Armenia, Nakhichevan' AR Source 	Vardenisskiy ridge Mouth 	On the boundary with Iran Length 	y28&#y'0;km Area of the pond 	2'e0&#y'0;kmІ Vysota&#y'0;istoka 	3000 - ey00&#y'0;m Raskhod&#y'0;vody 	21,2 mі/s

(from ru:Арпа (река) - translated via altavista) Khoikhoi 07:26, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Arpaçay River
"Akhurya?n (ARM. ????????) (Western Arpachay)&#y'0; - - river, the left tributary Of araksa. V&#y'0;verkhnem flow it flows over the territory of Armenia, into nizhnem&#y'0; - - on the border of Armenia with Turkey. It escapes from that created into 1950 Arpilichskogo reservoirs, it falls into Araks near the village Of bagaran."

(from ru:Ахурян (река)). Khoikhoi 07:30, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Well i don't think it can be efficient because usually online translators misplace alot of words. Nareklm 07:33, 28 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I guess I should ask a Russian-speaker then. :-( Khoikhoi 07:47, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Well does that article have source anyway? :-) Nareklm 07:49, 28 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I guess not (or nyet). :-( Well, off to researching then... Khoikhoi 07:58, 28 December 2006 (UTC)