Talk:ArtRave: The Artpop Ball/Archive 1

Start?
Even though details about the tour have not yet been released, I actually think there is quite a bit of information about the original artRave that could be detailed in this article space. This could eventually be the "background" or "orginal artRave" section in the tour article. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:29, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

-- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:30, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
 * http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/lady-gaga-shows-off-flying-dress-at-artrave-20131111
 * http://www.spin.com/articles/lady-gaga-artrave-concert-live-stream-artpop/
 * http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop-shop/5785708/lady-gagas-artrave-party-artpop-performance-flying-dress-costumes
 * http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/lady-gaga-plans-artrave-party-talks-about-weed-and-sex-life-20131108
 * http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1717180/lady-gaga-brooklyn-artrave.jhtml
 * http://www.gigwise.com/news/85906/Watch-Lady-Gaga-streams-New-York-Artrave-concert-online-in-full
 * http://www.out.com/entertainment/music/2013/11/08/lady-gagas-secret-artrave-be-live-streamed-sunday
 * http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/11/artrave-lady-gaga-artpop-flying-dress_n_4254387.html
 * http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2499255/Lady-Gaga-reveals-little-piano.html
 * http://www.mtv.co.uk/news/lady-gaga/394979-lady-gaga-artrave-album-launch-party-artpop
 * http://www.spin.com/articles/lady-gaga-artrave-artpop-review/
 * http://www.newnownext.com/lady-gaga-promoting-artpop-with-artrave-becoming-art-star/11/2013/
 * http://music-mix.ew.com/2013/11/11/lady-gaga-flying-dress-artrave/
 * Let the game, begin :P — Indian: BIO  · [ ChitChat ] 15:47, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Oops. Should ArtRave redirect here? Sorry, IndianBio, I "undid" your talk page redirect not knowing this page had been created. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:18, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I guess so, since she basically confirmed that elements of Artrave party will be there in the tour :) — Indian: BIO  · [ ChitChat ] 16:19, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, I am currently drafting a separate article for the original ArtRave. This event, which included a live concert, app demonstrations and a press conference, received a lot of press. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:40, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

European leg
The dates constantly being added are not confirmed. She has only just announced the opening leg today, with more North American dates most likely being announced first. Until Gaga or a repeatable publication confirms this, stop adding these dates. --Lolcakes25 (talk) 18:27, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Sellouts are untrue
Simply going to Ticketmaster, one can clearly see that ALL shows are still open. The reports of sellouts were either misinformed or just lies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.60.200.48 (talk) 01:40, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
 * It has been reported by third party reliable sources, and I just checked those shows for which sellouts are reported, and ticketmaster does show them to be sold out. Need screenshot? — Indian: BIO  · [ ChitChat ] 07:34, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

I'll provide you a screenshot of the tickets it just offered me in each location. There are NO sold out dates for this tour. You're either lying or don't know how to use ticketmaster. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.60.200.48 (talk) 19:36, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Sell outs in UK
According with Daily Mail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2552167/Lady-Gaga-gig-tickets-touted-700-EACH-official-ones-sell-minutes-leaving-thousands-disappointed.html Biagio2103 (talk) 18:22, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm kinda against using Daily Mail as a source you know, I'm aware of what they reported, just trying to find any other non-tabloid publication has reported it or not. — Indian: BIO  · [ ChitChat ] 05:46, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Armbrust The Homunculus 08:50, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Artrave: The Artpop Ball → ArtRave: The Artpop Ball – CamelCase titles are not sylizations; artRAVE is an stylization. So being technical the title should be "ArtRave...", like with ArtRave. © Tb hotch <font color="#555555"> ™ (en-2.5). 02:20, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Support seems logical to me. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 05:14, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Lady Gaga will NOT visit Mexico
Wikipedia, please remote the dates for Mexico. Live Nation Global Touring has released a statement saying that Lady Gaga will not visit Mexico this summer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.136.162.155 (talk) 05:10, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Please provide a source. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 05:13, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Doritos SXSW Performance
Is this performance actually a part of this tour? Reece Leonard (talk) 22:56, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * It is, preview for ArtRave they said, along with the Roseland Ballroom shows. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"> Indian: <font color="#FF033E">BIO  · [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">ChitChat ] 03:12, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Who? Gaga's team or something? Reece Leonard (talk) 06:44, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

No, Gaga herself said SXSW was a one-off performance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anthagio (talk • contribs) 08:05, 28 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Source? XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 08:09, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Roseland shows
Why are those shows in the tour dates? Those are not part of this tour, those are part of a residency show called "Lady Gaga Live at Roseland Ballroom", shouldn't be here.--186.105.173.75 (talk) 03:07, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I have fixed that now. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 03:12, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Israel concert
, even if other sources announce a date, it is best to wait for verification from Gaga herself. has indicated that there is no evidence of the date on TicketMaster or Gaga's website, so we should go with things like that. For all we know, the Israel date may have been cancelled. Until we have more official evidence, it is best not to include the date. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 19:13, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, but when you revert the edit, do you mind not undoing the whole edit? There is information besides the Israel date that is correct, but is being reverted. When removing the date, please don't erase all of the other information. Kworbi (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 19:41, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
 * This should be reverted if GagaARTPOP and Kworbi cannot give valid reasons for violating WP:CRYSTAL. I have reverted twice and won't do further but won't stop others from reverting the user. He/She is already on 3RR. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"> Indian: <font color="#FF033E">BIO  · [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">ChitChat ] 19:43, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
 * WP:CRYSTAL definitely can't be ignored, and unless I'm mistaken adding the date without Gaga's verification would also go against WP:SNYTH? XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 19:59, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Why you are removing the Israeli date in Lady Gaga's artRAVE: The ARTPOP Ball? According to the sources there is a link that says "Lady Gaga to play Tel Aviv in September", The date is not on Gaga's official site and on TicketMaster because the tickets are not on sale yet!. I'm not going to add the date anynore but this date is official and it should be on the tour dates. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GagaARTPOP (talk • contribs) 17:36, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Because doing so would go against WP:SYNTH. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 18:44, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
 * had again inserted the date into the article although Gaga's official your website still does not confirm it., what is your take on this since I saw you left a warning at the user's talk page and I frankly think that explaining the concept of WP:OR and WP:CRYSTAL is not working. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"> Indian: <font color="#FF033E">BIO  · [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">ChitChat ] 15:10, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
 * The date does not have to appear on Gaga's website before it can be inserted in the article; the date has to appear in any reliable source. So the issue becomes, is the Turkish source used for the Istanbul date reliable? Is it a newspaper with a generally good reputation, or is it just a gossip site? —C.Fred (talk) 23:58, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth,, I would be all for adding it if any reliable source included that along with other tour dates. From what I could see, adding this date with a source only talking about one date seemed like WP:SYNTH when there were other sources talking about other dates excluding that singular performance. Correct both myself and if we were wrong to call it such, though. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 00:09, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
 * It's easiest to cite a comprehensive list, but that doesn't mean we can't choose sources selectively. That said, the pitfall is publication date: suppose an article appeared on February 1 saying there'd be a concert at the XYZ Arena on September 30. Then, on March 1, the concert list was published but didn't mention the September 30 date. Was it an oversight in the list, or was it dropped from the tour dates? The omission from the list would suggest leaving it out. Conversely, if the tour list were dated February 1, and the new date were announced March 1, then we should add it to the list, because the single announcement is newer. This may create the problem of getting publication dates for the sources. —C.Fred (talk) 00:13, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Makes sense to me. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 00:17, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
 * The thing is that, whenever the other dates were announced, they immediately reflected on Gaga's official website, even the recent six dates announced for US. However, though an Israeli publication announced that Tel Aviv date in February 2014, the date is still not added in the itinerary at Ladygaga.com, making me believe that it is not a confirmed tour date at all. Same goes for that Istanbul date also. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"> Indian: <font color="#FF033E">BIO  · [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">ChitChat ] 04:25, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
 * again added the Tel Aviv date without any confirmation and added another Dubai date, which is grossly WP:CRYSTAL at present. Thoughts? —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"> Indian: <font color="#FF033E">BIO  · [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">ChitChat ] 05:23, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I didn't wanna have to say this, but it this might need to be reported at WP:ANI. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 06:04, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

The official announced of the artRAVE in Israel will come after Justin Timberlake's concert in Israel(28.5).
 * Source for this vague statement? —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"> Indian: <font color="#FF033E">BIO  · [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">ChitChat ] 06:54, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

The concerts in Israel has been confirmed by the Israli producer Udi Appelboim, you can check his Facebook. And it also has been added to the tour dates by GagaSlays. And here is also an article from the Israeli news channel that confirm it http://bidur.nana10.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=1056393 — Preceding unsigned comment added by GagaARTPOP (talk • contribs) 21:55, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
 * You can go on saying it as much as you want, but it won't be added unless Gaga's itinerary says so., I think its time to bring this up to WP:ANI, enough disruptions from GagaARTPOP and there is a sock involved with the same name I believe. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"> Indian: <font color="#FF033E">BIO  · [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">ChitChat ] 05:48, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Are you referring to ? Wouldn't surprise me too much. As for WP:ANI, the previous report I filed on GagaARTPOP received little to no admin attention. Feel free to re-report, though. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 05:53, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

On Sunday, June 8th, a press conference will be held in Tel Aviv, by the Israeli producers that are bringing Lady Gaga to a concert in Park Hayarkon, Tel Aviv! In this conference they'll OFFICIALY announce the arrival of the new queen of pop to a once-in-a-life concert in Israel's BIGGEST park.
 * Not here for unsourced fancruft from fanboys. Sorry. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"> Indian: <font color="#FF033E">BIO  · [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">ChitChat ] 09:24, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

The date in Israel is now CONFIRMED, Lady Gaga has posted it on her official Facebook! https://www.facebook.com/ladygaga/photos/np.113717866.1505131034/10152580105714574/?type=1&notif_t=notify_me — Preceding unsigned comment added by GagaARTPOP (talk • contribs) 07:10, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 April 2014
191.240.230.9 (talk) 02:01, 15 April 2014 (UTC)


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(talk) 06:41, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

2 columns for set list?
Thoughts of having two columns for the set list section? Seems like a lot of white space otherwise. I don't feel too strongly, but I think the presentation could look better with two columns. -- Another Believer ( Talk )
 * , what are your comments given your removal of the column divider? XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 18:47, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
 * To me, it seems unessesary to divide the setlist into two columns. Many tour pages on Wikipedia that have a 20+ setlist, including Gaga's own Born This Way Ball, are formatted into one column. I also think that the setlist summery before the actual setlist is also unesessary. All the summery is doing is just repeating what the setlist is. In my opinion, I believe we should keep the one-column setlist an remove the repetitive summery before the setlist. --- Kworbi (talk)  — Preceding undated comment added 22:45, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
 * The summary gives bakground info on the songs chosen as well as any new songs which were never used in any of her concerts, this time its "Partynauseous", "Cake Like Lady Gaga" and "Ratchet". It will stay. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"> Indian: <font color="#FF033E">BIO  · [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">ChitChat ] 05:36, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't see why we can't use two columns. But then again, it looks fine the way it is now. I doesn't matter.<font face="Times New Roman" size="2em"> — TheMadonnaMusicCN  ( talk,  contribs ) 9:32, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Concert synopsis
Can some one write up a detailed concert synopsis? —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"> Indian: <font color="#FF033E">BIO  · [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">ChitChat ] 06:53, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
 * We should probably find someone who's been to the show. Otherwise, may as well use what we can gather from reviews. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 06:55, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I was going to do that, but got stuck at the beginning itself. The reviews don't give a step by step analysis of the show, just bits and pieces. Oh well, lets hope someone from Wikipedia goes to it. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"> Indian: <font color="#FF033E">BIO  · [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">ChitChat ] 06:57, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I can do it when a more detailed source like you brought out is released.<font face="Times New Roman" size="2em"> — TheMadonnaMusicCN  ( talk,  contribs ) 9:32, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Guys I made a semi-protected request edit with the full concert synopsis I just wish it's accepted. Even though I've never been to the show but I've seen the official synopsis here. http://ladygaga.wikia.com/wiki/The_ARTPOP_Ball/Show — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xavier9561 (talk • contribs) 11:11, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Development
In this section, I'm not sure why costumes are being discussed in such detail. My suggestion would to instead incorporate her costume changes in concert summary (when that gets written). XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 08:21, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
 * One of Gaga's most important aspects of her career, her shows, her theatrics as well as her presentation is her costumes. Weird, excessive, gaudy, over-the-top, whichever way you put it, they are a defining part of her oeuvre. That's why they are present as part of the development. This is attested by the third party media talking about the costumes in detail, over 50 sources are there. I just listed two of them. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"> Indian: <font color="#FF033E">BIO  · [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">ChitChat ] 08:31, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Dubai & Tel Aviv dates
According to a recent article in Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/jesselawrence/2014/05/09/lana-del-rey-tickets-on-secondary-market-have-prices-among-pop-musics-elite/), it has stated that Gaga is indeed playing Dubai, Tel Aviv & Istanbul. I don't understand why Gaga must be the only one to confirm this while multiple other sources have already confirmed. Why is Gaga the only reliable source in this case? And also, the article could also be used in the Commercial Reception section if anyone wants to add that. --- Kworbi

Semi-protected edit request on 18 May 2014
Concert synopsis __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Act 1

The show starts with the whole venue dark and then the screen shows the intro video which shows flashings lights and messages from the promo poster and some pre-recorded messages says "Welcome to ArtRave" and "Welcome to Venus" while the word "ARTRAVE" is shown on screen and then the dancers come out of the main building with giant balloons, gazing balls and futuristic costumes perform on the stage as a colorful video on the screen is projected with the caption 'Are You Ready?' with Rave music been played. Near the end, just before Gaga rises from the stage, a pre-recorded message says "Now, Lady Gaga". The rave music is faded with an 'ARTPOP' instumental intro played by the band, as Gaga rises onto the stage. Bubbles are projected in the screen and the castle. The show begins with the title track, "ARTPOP". Gaga emerges from the stage wearing a leotard with the Jeff Koons ball on it and wearing angel wings. After an instrumental intro, she performs "ARTPOP" on the main stage and on the runways, playing the piano at the second chorus. At the start of the third verse, she removes her angel wings. After "ARTPOP", Gaga sings "G.U.Y." on the stage and the runways. Gaga transitions directly into singing "Donatella" after "G.U.Y." ends. Gaga walks down the runway while wearing a clear-cloak attachment on her dress to the piano to perform a shortened version of her song "Fashion!" while some of her dancers walk down the runways sporting black-and-white lined clothes. Gaga walks down to the end of the runway and goes back to a part near the piano and goes down the stage for a costume change.

Act 2 During Gaga's outfit change, the band and dancers perform. Gaga is raised from the part of the runway that she disappeared into for her outfit change after ""Fashion!". Gaga now sports her seashell bra and garden panty to perform "Venus". Large inflatable flowers emerge from the catwalk during the beginning of the song. Gaga performs on the runway. At one point of the song, Gaga plays a guitar. Gaga begins performing "MANiCURE" on the runway after talking for a few seconds after Venus. During the song, Gaga and the dancers use microphone stands as props and Gaga makes her way back to main stage and sits in a seashell beauty salon chair to be wheeled around for a few seconds. Gaga finishes out the performance on the runway. At the last part of the song, a video is shown with Gaga swinging on a rope sucking a pacifier while we hear a low-pitch voice saying "Cake Like Lady Gaga" multiple times."MANiCURE" transitions into "Cake Like Lady Gaga". Gaga performs a shorter version of the song, only singing the first verse and the chorus. Gaga disappears in the castle for an outfit change as the band plays an outro for the song.

Act 3

The song starts with an extended intro right after a pre-recorded voice says "And now we Just Dance." Gaga emerges back onto stage in a new outfit and wig as a video plays of her in white twirling on the screen. She then performs a shortened version of "Just Dance" with her dancers who are dressed as "sea people". In this version she plays the first verse and chorus, the second verse and chorus, the fourth verse, and ends with the line "Just Dance" instead of performing a full final chorus. During the fourth verse, Gaga plays a seahorse keytar. Gaga begins to perform "Poker Face" immediately after "Just Dance". She starts performing on the main stage and then walks her way along the runway to finish the performance. Dancers remove the bottom part of her dress revealing a leotard at some point during this performance. The song is shortened playing only the first verse and chorus and the third verse and chorus. Gaga begins performing "Telephone" on the runway after "Poker Face" ends. Gaga performs a shortened and remixed version of Telephone and ends the performance by entering a structure on the main stage for an outfit change. The remix starts by repeating the "I'm kinda busy" line before Gaga performs one chorus and then ends with a remixed reprise.

Act 4

Gaga emerges from the main structure on the main stage in a new tentacled outfit to perform "Partynauseous" with her dancers. Gaga performs the first verse and chorus of this song and then it ends rather abruptly for some brief ambient music. Gaga begins singing "Paparazzi" after the ambient music ends. She starts the performance on the main stage and makes her way along the runway as the song progresses. Gaga makes her way to the C-Stage toward the end of the song as the dancers place the "Monster Paw Chair" on the stage there and other dancers remove the tentacles from Gaga's dress, revealing a leotard. Gaga then lies across the Monster Paw chair and finishes out the song. Gaga begins singing a shortened version of "Do What U Want" on the Monster Paw chair right after she finishes "Paparazzi". Towards the end of the song, Gaga lies down on the runway and sings. Gaga proceeds to the piano on the runway after performing "Do What U Want" to perform an acoustic version of "Born This Way". Occasionally, just like the piano segment from her third tour "The Born This Way Ball Tour", she brings up a fan onstage from the ARTPOP Zone.

Act 5 "Jewels N' Drugs" plays as Gaga changes outfits and wigs. A video interlude is also shown on the screen in the back showing Gaga dancing. Gaga rises from the stage near the piano and sings one chorus of the song then the song ends. After finishing "Jewels N' Drugs", Gaga begins walking along the runway as "Aura" begins. Gaga and the dancers then perform the song on the main stage. A red couch is brought out onto the main stage for the performance of "Sexxx Dreams". Gaga performs the song on red couch at first and then performs the remainder of the song on the main stage with the dancers. White chairs are brought out onto the stage by the dancers for a performance of "Mary Jane Holland". Gaga and her dancers perform "Mary Jane Holland" on the main stage while doing chair choreography. Immediately after "Mary Jane Holland" ends, Gaga performs "Alejandro" on the runway. The song is shortened removing the second verse and chorus.

Act 6 "Ratchet" plays as an intro as Gaga gets naked while being seen by her fans being changed into her next outfit and wig onstage. Right before the song starts there is a pre-recorded intro that says: "And now, performing her hit single, Bad Romance." Immediately afterwards, Gaga begins singing "Bad Romance" on the main stage. The song is performed with the original choreography. Gaga immediately begins performing "Applause" after "Bad Romance". She performs "Applause" on the runway. A video of Gaga is shown on the giant screen while Gaga performs. Gaga begins performing "Swine" right after talking to the audience. Dancers fire stuffed animals into the crowd using cannons during the performance. The song is shortened playing only the first verse and chorus and an extended version of the third verse. Gaga takes off the skirt of her dress either before Applause or Swine. Gaga comes back out onto stage to perform "Gypsy" for the encore. Sometimes Gaga brings up a fan to perform the song with her. During the song the backdrop shows Gaga performing the song live on the piano. Gaga performs most of the song at the piano then makes her way along the runway to finish the performance on the main stage and closes the show.

Source: http://ladygaga.wikia.com/wiki/The_ARTPOP_Ball/Show

Xavier9561 Xavier9561 (talk) 13:20, 18 May 2014 (UTC) (talk) 11:09, 18 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as the proposal is over-long and you have not any cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. If this is a description of what you saw, when you attended a show, it is original research so it is also not allowed. - Arjayay (talk) 15:10, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Wait I posted the source after the synopsis. It is official. Xavier9561 (talk) 00:19, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: The summary is way too long. To include it in the article would disrupt the balance of the content. Also, Wikia wikis are user-generated content, like Wikipedia, and they are generally considered unreliable as a source for information. See Identifying reliable sources for a summary of what is considered a reliable source. Furthermore, it appears you have directly copied and pasted some of the content from that Wikia. This is unacceptable, as Wikipedia is free content and takes copyrights and copyright violations very seriously. Write the summary in your own words in a concise manner. You don't have to include every detail--just the most important ones. Generally, I'd say 1 to 2 paragraphs is reasonable. Mz7 (talk) 01:57, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Ok I'll make another one Xavier9561 (talk) 04:24, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Concert Sypnosis

Semi-protected edit request on 19 May 2014
The show starts off with a video intro with the word "ARTRAVE" displayed as a pre-recorded message says "Welcome to ArtRave" and "Held at Venus". Dancers with giant balloons, gazing balls and futuristic costumes perform on the stage as a colorful video on the screen is projected with the caption ARE YOU READY? After the words "LADY GAGA" are shown on the screen, Gaga emerges from the stage with an angel-winged leotard with a "Jeff Koons Gazing Ball" to perform the title track song of her album "ARTPOP". Then after the song, Gaga performs G.U.Y. with similar choreography as in the music video. The song transitions in to "Donatella" with the screen showing flashing stars and colorful cloud formations. She runs down the runway in the latter with a clear-cloak on her leotard to perform "Fashion!" on the piano. She walks down to the edge of the runway and goes back near the piano and is lowered down for a costume change as the band plays the remaining part of the song. The dancers and the band perform as Gaga changes outfits and comes back to perform "Venus". Large inflatable flowers rise at the start of the song. Gaga performs it with a guitar in the latter. Gaga talks to the audience for a while and performs "MANiCURE" with her female dancers. Near the song's end she walks down the runway and the song transitions to one of her unreleased songs "Cake Like Lady Gaga". Gaga disappears in the castle for an outfit change as the band plays an outro for the song. Gaga emerges back onto stage in a new outfit and wig as a video plays of her in white twirling on the screen. She then performs a shortened version of "Just Dance" with her dancers who are dressed as "sea people". She performs the fourth verse with a seahorse-designed keytar. Gaga then performs a short version of "Poker Face" and a remixed version of "Telephone" and goes back in the castle to change her outfit. Gaga comes back to perform another unreleased song "Partynauseous" and performs "Paparazzi" after some ambient and quiet music. As she makes her way down the runways, her dancers bring the "Monster Paw Chair" and puts it on the C-Stage where Gaga begins singing a shortened version of "Do What U Want" on the chair right after she finishes the song. Towards the end of the song, Gaga lies down on the runway Gaga proceeds to the piano on the runway to perform an acoustic version of "Born This Way". "Jewels N' Drugs" plays as Gaga changes outfits and wigs. A video interlude is also shown on the screen in the back showing Gaga dancing. Gaga rises from the stage near the piano and sings one chorus of of the song and then it ends. Gaga begins walking along the runway as "Aura" begins. Gaga and the dancers then perform the song on the main stage. A red couch is brought out onto the main stage for the performance of "Sexxx Dreams". White chairs are brought out onto the stage by the dancers for a performance of "Mary Jane Holland". Gaga and her dancers perform "Mary Jane Holland" while doing chair choreography. Gaga then performs "Alejandro" on the runway. "Ratchet" plays as an intro as Gaga gets naked while being seen by her fans being changed into her next outfit and wig onstage. Immediately afterwards, Gaga begins singing "Bad Romance" on the main stage. The song is performed with the original choreography. Gaga immediately begins performing "Applause" after "Bad Romance". She performs "Applause" on the runway. A video of Gaga is shown on the giant screen while Gaga performs.Gaga begins performing "Swine" right after "Applause". Dancers fire stuffed animals into the crowd using cannons during the performance. She leaves the stage acting like it was the last song. Gaga comes back out onto stage to perform "Gypsy" for the encore. Gaga performs most of the song at the piano then makes her way along the runway to finish the performance on the main stage and closes the show.

Xavier9561 (talk) 04:54, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template.	 <font color="Blue">Acalycine (<font color="Green">talk /<font color="Green">contribs ) 06:13, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Its already answered that this summary is too fancrufty to be added to the article. Please dont keep on requesting through the template.—<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"> Indian: <font color="#FF033E">BIO  · [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">ChitChat ] 17:34, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 * On second thought, I think I can work with the summary you posted and after trimming the fancruft it could be included. Lemme work on it for a bit. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"> Indian: <font color="#FF033E">BIO  · [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">ChitChat ] 07:35, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for including some of my synopsis for the page :) Thanks! This is Xavier9561.

Semi-protected edit request on 26 May 2014
During her performance in Calgary, Lady Gaga performed 'Hair'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSAM-7HioWM

82.101.217.240 (talk) 21:13, 26 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Please provide what (specifically) you would like changed in the article and where. --JustBerry (talk) 21:58, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Additional Background/Development
This article seems very useful for the Background or Development sections of this page.

http://www.out.com/entertainment/popnography/2014/05/27/numbers-lady-gagas-artrave-artpop-ball — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.205.172.29 (talk) 23:00, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"> Indian: <font color="#FF033E">BIO  · [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">ChitChat ] 07:34, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

More articles to include...
These articles seem very useful to this article!

http://www.out.com/entertainment/popnography/2014/05/27/numbers-lady-gagas-artrave-artpop-ball

http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/legal-and-management/6114193/lady-gaga-and-manager-bobby-campbell-join-artist

Please include these in this article! Thanks!
 * The first one is already listed in the section before and the second one does not have much regarding development of the tour. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"> Indian: <font color="#FF033E">BIO  · [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">ChitChat ] 06:44, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 July 2014
I just attended the concert in Buffalo, NY. Her setlist was slightly different this time so I think we should put that in the "Note" section. "Partynauseous" was used only as an interlude during a costume change; She performed "Born This Way" after inviting a kid from the audience who had been trying to meet her through the Make-a-Wish Foundation. They reminisced about a fallen monster, Jamie, and she performed a brief a cappella version of "The Queen" because it was Jamie's favourite part from the album.; "Jewels n' Drugs" was only used as an Interlude.; She did not perform "Fashion!," "Cake Like Lady Gaga," "Mary Jane Holland," and "Ratchet."; This was mostly likely due to time constraints, because she started so late that even with all these clipped songs, she only ended right at 11:00 P.M. (which she is required by the law in New York to do.)

Gagaluv1 (talk) 12:03, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Please find a source for this. IPadPerson (talk) 12:12, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

I do not have a source for this, however as I already stated, I was there. If anyone else attended the concert, please help me verify this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gagaluv1 (talk • contribs)
 * The burden is on you to provide reliable sources for changes you wish to be made. No sources = no addition. SNUGGUMS (talk · contribs) 13:06, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Here It Is: http://gagadaily.com/index.php/topic/103177-full-list-artrave-tour-changes-special-moments-by-date/ This can also be used for some other notes if needed as well. Also, by "verify this," I meant for someone who went to the show to confirm that what I said was true. I'm sorry, poor wording :/
 * Sorry Gagaluv, that is a fansite which is not accepted in Wikipedia, thanks for taking the time to search. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"> Indian: <font color="#FF033E">BIO  · [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">ChitChat ] 06:36, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Set list
During the performance in Montreal, Gaga performed a shortened version of "The Edge of Glory" and did not performed Fashion!. During the performance in Quebec City, Gaga did not performed Fashion! and Aura. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justinberthelot92 (talk • contribs) 19:57, 10 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Pictogram voting comment.svg Note: You may clarify this information by adding them in the notes section with proper sources. IPadPerson (talk) 01:05, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Concerns
Apparently, User:Rustic has concerns that this article is full of fancruft and is in a non-neutral tone. So User:Rustic, would you please kindly elaborate what parts or areas there are problems? Tagging an article without explaining in the talk page seems of no use. Be proactive. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"> Indian: <font color="#FF033E">BIO  · [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">ChitChat ] 08:19, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Critical Reception
There are some reviews about the show not stated on the article. (You can classify if it is positive or negative.) []
 * Thanks for this. However, the North American reviews from the most important news outlets are already listed. It should actually be cut down since the whole of European, Asian and Australian reviews are pending. It is WP:UNDUE now. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"> Indian: <font color="#FF033E">BIO  · [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">ChitChat ] 13:30, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 July 2014
Add the opening act for the australian tour dates

Noah4Real (talk) 04:16, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
 * A source for the opening acts on those dates would be needed. SNUGGUMS (talk · contribs) 04:17, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Atlanta
The July 25 2014 Microsoft concert has been added to the tour dates. Personally, I don't think it should be included, as tickets weren't available to the public, and only Microsoft employees were invited to the concert. Sylvestermccoyfan7 (talk) 17:21, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

I know the above statement is old; after looking at the dates a few times, the Microsoft event doesn't seem right for inclusion in the list of shows. It was a private event, Gaga has been doing spontaneous performances throughout the ArtRave, so adding only this event seems odd. I believe it should be deleted from the list of shows. Mac1994 (talk) 22:00, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Ticket Sales
These may be helpful. :)

http://www.forbes.com/sites/deniselyohn/2014/07/16/lady-gaga-is-still-schooling-marketers/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/aap/article-2695073/Lady-Gagas-marketing-praised-Forbes.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wilfredium (talk • contribs) 10:48, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Inclusion of 'Dope' into the setlist.
Aside from being performed for the first time in Phoenix (http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/uponsun/2014/07/lady_gaga_-_us_airways_center_-_73014.php), Dope has also been confirmed to have been played during the following concerts:


 * Las Vegas: http://www.reviewjournal.com/columns-blogs/entertainment/music/fame-monster-gaga-growled-crowd-raved
 * Denver: http://www.heyreverb.com/blog/2014/08/07/lady-gaga-hospitalized-getting-altitude-sickness-denver/93113/
 * Seattle: http://blogs.seattletimes.com/soundposts/2014/08/09/lady-gagas-still-got-it-concert-review/
 * Vancouver: http://www.straight.com/music/704256/lady-gaga-shows-flair-more-garish-vancouver

With these reviews/reports showing that 'Dope' has indeed been performed after every date starting with Phoenix, I think it should be allowed onto the main setlist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.205.172.29 (talk) 14:43, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
 * It should be added to the main set list, while the others should remain also. Do not remove other songs which are not being performed now but are equally part of the set list. And I know its you Kworbi, so you better log in next time. —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"> Indian: <font color="#FF033E">BIO  · [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">ChitChat ] 15:47, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 August 2014
It appears that there are some typos within the "Development" section of this page. Below are the current words/sentence with my suggested edits next to them:

AJ (talk) 06:10, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * "stalagmite like" - change to "stalagmite-like"
 * "aread" - change to "area"
 * "The singer also wore short dress coupled with a platinum bob wig" - add the word 'a' before 'short dress', so it changes to "The singer also wore a short dress coupled with a platinum bob wig"
 * "Before the final performance Gaga wears black latex pants and a top, with a green wig on her head and a necklace made of marijuana leaves." - The case is wrong is in this sentence. Throughout this page, the text is in past tense, yet this changes to present tense. The sentence should therefore have the word 'wore' instead of 'wears', changing the sentence to: "Before the final performance Gaga wore black latex pants and a top, with a green wig on her head and a necklace made of marijuana leaves."
 * "cloths" - change to "clothes"
 * ✅ —<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"> Indian: <font color="#FF033E">BIO  · [ <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0">ChitChat ] 06:14, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Setlist
People keep changing the setlist. I don't understand why they can't just give it a new tab or put it into the notes.Gagaluv1 (talk) 11:27, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Melbourne
"During the performance in Melbourne, a short acapella version of the unreleased track "Brooklyn Nights" was performed." should be added to the "Notes" section under "Set list." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wilarends (talk • contribs) 21:30, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Source?  Snuggums ( talk  /  edits ) 22:01, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

setlist
it has become

ARTPOP G.U.Y. Donatella Venus MANiCURE Just Dance Poker Face Telephone Partynauseous (Music Interlude) Paparazzi Do What U Want Dope You and I Born This Way (Acoustic) Jewels & Drugs (Music Interlude) The Edge of Glory (Chorus Acapella) Judas Aura Sexxx Dreams Mary Jane Holland Alejandro Bang Bang (My Baby Shot Me Down) Ratchet (Music Interlude) Bad Romance Applause Swine Gypsy — Preceding unsigned comment added by James19709 (talk • contribs) 17:08, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 November 2014
Tour has ended today.

Hausofdjmalik (talk) 23:19, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I have updated the tense to reflect this.  Snuggums ( talk  /  edits ) 23:35, 24 November 2014 (UTC)