Talk:Artephius

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Say, "O Allah, Owner of Sovereignty, You give sovereignty to whom You will and You take sovereignty away from whom You will. You honor whom You will and You humble whom You will. In Your hand is [all] good. Indeed, You are over all things competent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.182.125.111 (talk) 12:50, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Loss of works
the Scientific works of Ibn ar-Tafiz were totally erased by the inquistition and the emergence of the fierce Catholic monarchs —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaka Mughal (talk • contribs) 19:08, 15 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Would it be possible for you to provide references for the claims you have been adding about Artephius / Ibn al-Tafiz? For example, claims such as this, this and this?
 * They all seem rather dubious and you have not cited any source for them, or for that matter, for the claim you have just added here. Please see WP:V for some guidance on what is needed.
 * All the best. –Syncategoremata (talk) 19:14, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Frankly, most of this article should be deleted. Apart from the lack of citations, most of the data given is pointless repetition of you average alchemical stuff. Plus I have been able to find almost no information about him; Thorndike in his History of magic and experimental science, volume 2, page 354, identifies him with Artesius who appears to have been something of a magician, and in turn that this Artesius was actually Altughra'i, a poet and alchemist who died in 1128. Calcinations (talk) 20:25, 12 October 2012 (UTC)