Talk:Arthur (Or the Decline and Fall of the British Empire)

Second look
As requested, here is a second look at the article. I made some copyedits as I read, please revert if I made errors or made things worse. Hope this helps, and let me know when this is at FAC - looks good to me. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 16:15, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * In the lead however, the play was cancelled and never produced might be confusing as a play is usually on stage - would a word other than play that makes it clearer it was for television help? however, the television program was cancelled and never produced? This might be an American Ebglish vs. British English issue
 * In The first tracks worked on were "Drivin'", intended as their next single release, and "Mindless Child Of Motherhood"... since the latter track does not appear on the album (at least under that name) I think it has to be explained.
 * Say which relaese date is meant here (album or TV play) As problems with the TV play got progressively worse—and, consequently, distracted The Kinks from completing the post-production of the album—the release date was pushed further and further back.[7][14]
 * The article has two fair-use images and two fair-use sound clips. The sound clips seem fine, and the cover art in the infobox is standard for an album article, but I wonder if more text is needed for the Quenn Victoria gatefold to meet WP:NFCC?
 * In Modern criticism, I think I would try to give years for each of the reviews to provide context (this is done for some already)
 * I wonder if the artcle should mention somewhere that the lyrics for "Mr. Churchill says" include the line "this was their finest hour" since several of the reviews play off that.

Improperly sourced quote
As much as you and I would like this quote to be in the article, it cannot stand as it is not backed up by a reliable source. Personal email correspondences count as original research and this is not allowed on Wikipedia. Your edits will continue to be reverted until you stop or are blocked. I really appreciate you trying to help out here, but in the future please try to stick to the Wikipedia guidelines. Like I said, perhaps you could get this quote published in an article for a reliable publication - then we could use it. - I.M.S. (talk) 16:45, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Hard rock
Victoria = Rock / Folk rock

Yes Sir, No Sir = Rock / Baroque pop

Some Mother's Son = Soft rock

Drivin' = Pop

Brainwashed = Hard rock

Australia = Rock

Shangri-La = Rock / Folk rock

Mr. Churchill Says = Progressive rock

She's Brought A Hat = Folk rock

Young And Innocent Days = Soft rock

Nothing To Say = Rock

Arthur = Rock

... So how is this album classified as hard rock? The current reference do it doesn't even call it a hard rock album. 216.80.63.2 (talk) 00:14, 7 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Three things:
 * You are a genre warrior who changes genres without citing any sources.
 * The genres listed above are not necessarily the right ones for those songs.
 * You are assuming that an album's genre parameter in the infobox should be a list of the genres that have been established for the songs. This is not correct. The album genre is whatever the WP:Reliable sources say it is.
 * So if you want to participate at Wikipedia, you will need to find reliable sources for album genres. Note that the genre parameter will remain empty without reliable and verifiable sources determining the album's genre. Binksternet (talk) 06:06, 7 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Victoria, Mr Churchill Says, Australia, Shangrila, and Arthur rock hard in my opinion... I think the current three genres sum up the album perfectly. Poppermost2014 (talk) 20:05, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

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FA concerns
In its current state, the article no longer meets the FA criteria. The reappraisal section in particular has citation needed tags and does not have enough reviews laid out in prose. There are also some questionable sources (kindakinks.net), the charts section is not laid out to current standards, the personnel section is mostly unsourced, and the extra track listings do not belong per WP:ALTTRACKLISTING. – zmbro (talk) (cont) 19:03, 3 June 2024 (UTC)