Talk:Arthur Eve/GA3

GA Review
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Reviewer: Geraldk (talk) 14:51, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm impressed that you've stuck to this article through two failed GANs and two PRs. I'm going to have to go through it tonight with a fine-toothed comb, because I just used up the time I had for a review reading through the old noms and the PRs, but some general impressions and questions first:


 * You mention that you know him personally, correct? Is there any way you can work that into getting a free image of him? It's not necessary for GA status, but in a biography is, of course, extremely helpful.
 * He lives in Buffalo and I live in Chicago. I would take a picture of him, if I had access to him right now.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:32, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Again, not required for GA, but can you quickly throw in some alt text for the two images?
 * Got em.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:32, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * This last sentence caught my eye: "When Eliot Spitzer announced he had selected David Paterson to be his running mate for the 2006 New York State Elections, there was some controversy because Eve had been joined by David Dinkins, Rangel, Percy Sutton and Basil Paterson (who is David's father) in endorsing his daughter." You refer to multiple David's, better to say 'David Pateron's father', I think.
 * Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:35, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Anyway, more later. Geraldk (talk) 14:51, 3 November 2009 (UTC)


 * OK, more in depth commentary and questions, mostly minor stuff:
 * The early life raises a lot of questions, and I would love to see a little more detail if it's available from sources. If not, well, not much we can do. Why did he move around so much (NY to FL to WV to Buffalo)? Why did he go to Buffalo - family? the military service? Was the program for orphans part of his military service, or just volunteer activity? Did he get the parks job immediately after joining the Dem. Party (as the sentence suggests), and if not, what did he do in the meantime? If he was an 'independent activist' within the party, how did he get a patronage job?
 * I am unable to find more content on early life right now. I have one more avenue of research that I have not exhausted (Another source for NYT article with early political years). The sources I have seen so far do not delve much into why he moved around. The orphanage seems to have been a military job. How would you like the text to be altered for this fact? No more info other than what the article says about the timing of his parks job. I gather that independent activists can still serve the party by registering voters and such.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 08:54, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * If you can't find sources to answer the questions, then you can't find sources. Just consider it something you should look into more if your eventual goal is FA. Geraldk (talk) 11:54, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * A confusion: Eve's daughter in this article and in her own is described as living in New York, but her own article also says she lives in Fort Washington, Maryland. Which is it?
 * This article is not the place for her residence. I know she was a resident of NY in 2005 and 2006, probably a resident of MD in 2007 and probably a resident of NY in 2008.  However, that is not a subject of this article and I don't expect this article to be kept current on this issue.  Thus, I have removed the reference to NY.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:42, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * In Assemblyman, you end two sentences with 'state construction sites', which reads a little oddly. Possible rewording?
 * O.K.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:46, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * How does the Arts-in-Education Award relate to the paragraph it's mentioned in, since it's mentioned out of chronological order?
 * Does it seem more relevant now?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:39, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Democrat is a noun, not an adjective, when using it to modify a noun, it should be, "Democratic candidate"
 * Good catch.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:48, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Which ref covers the assertion that he was the first Dem in 40 years to lose the general election for mayor?
 * I saw it somewhere, but given that Chester A. Kowal was a Republican, it does not make sense. I have removed it.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:23, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Did Griffin not run for Mayor just because Eve opposed him? That seems to be what the article suggests...
 * How is it now?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:05, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Why didn't Eve run for mayor in 89 or 93?
 * Added reffed explanations.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:03, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * On the statement, 'recognised as a champion of the American family,' first, recognised is the British spelling, and this is an article about an American politician. Second, 'champion of the American family' as a term in American politics tends to connote a conservative stand on social issues such as gay marriage, whereas what Gore was suggesting in the quote is, I think, slightly different. I would either reword that or quote it directly - it is significant in itself that the quote is from a former Vice President
 * O.K.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:18, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * But, in general, excellent work on a major New York political figure. Geraldk (talk) 00:03, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm promoting. Ideas for future improvements might include the addition of the head shot for the infobox at the top and fleshing out some of the unanswered questions about his early life. Good work. Geraldk (talk) 13:34, 6 November 2009 (UTC)