Talk:Arthur Wing Pinero/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Gog the Mild (talk · contribs) 20:16, 18 February 2019 (UTC)


 * The last paragraph of Fin de siècle is not cited. (Should Fin de siècle be in italics?)
 * The five supporting citations are in footnote 5. I could duplicate them in the main text if wanted. The OED doesn't italicise (or, as it would say, italicize) the phrase.  Tim riley  talk   22:59, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * We may be talking at cross purposes, or - entirely possible - I may be missing something. The paragraph "Within a year of the disappointment of The Beauty Stone Pinero returned to successful form with a four-act play The Gay Lord Quex, a comedy of manners, in succession to two others in the genre, The Times (1891) and The Princess and the Butterfly (1897). The Gay Lord Quex, a story of a determined and resourceful young woman and a reformed aristocratic philanderer, had an initial run of 300 performances and has proved one of Pinero's more revivable plays." does not contain a cite. It ends with a note, number 6, which discusses revivals and is itself (adequately) cited. At most this note provides referencing for "and has proved one of Pinero's more revivable plays"; the rest of the paragraph, so far as I can see, is uncited.
 * True. Now added some citations.  Tim riley  talk   16:35, 27 February 2019 (UTC)


 * "Pinero was born in London, the only son, and second of three children" Optional: should that be 'the second'?
 * Either seems OK to me. Will gladly change if you prefer.  Tim riley  talk   22:59, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * No. Your choice. It rings oddly to me, but I am certain that your grasp of formal use of English is superior to mine.


 * "For them he played the Marquis de Cevennes in Plot and Passion (1881), Sir Alexander Shendryn in Ours (1882), Hanway in Odette (1882) and Sir Anthony Absolute in The Rivals (1884) in a starry cast that included Squire Bancroft" Optional: so many in's that "in a starry cast" reads a little jarringly.
 * True. Redrawn.  Tim riley  talk   22:59, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Do we know how many shows The Second Mrs Tanqueray ran for?
 * We do. 225 performances. This is included in the table of productions later in the article, but could perfectly well be duplicated here if wanted.  Tim riley  talk   22:59, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * It would, I think, be helpful. "who disliked acting in long runs" left me wondering just how many that was and it was not readily apparent that the information could be found elsewhere.
 * Indeed. Now added.  Tim riley  talk   16:35, 27 February 2019 (UTC)


 * "and of those that were produced in London the longest-running lasted for 64 performances" Optional: give the specific number, if known; what was the longest running? Eg 'and of the xxx that were produced in London the longest-running, The xxx of yyy, lasted for 64 performances'.
 * Good. Done.  Tim riley  talk   22:59, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Plays. You are inconsistent regarding adding theatre to an establishment's name. Eg "Prince's Theatre" and "Toole's Theatre", but "Folly" and "Haymarket".
 * My rule is to write "the XYZ Theatre" at first mention and then just "the XYZ" at subsequent mentions. I don't swear to following this unfailingly, and will check the text.  Tim riley  talk   22:59, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah, explained. In your excellent table under Plays you follow this rule on from the text above. Hence "Folly" and "Haymarket". If it were me (which it isn't) I would include 'Theatre' in all first mentions in the table. However, I now understand why you don't and am happy with your approach.

And that is all I can find. This is well above GA level. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:58, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for this. Some v. helpful points.  Tim riley  talk   22:59, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Hmm. You flatter. It was so good that in the absence of camels I was straining at gnats. Two points above for you to consider. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:17, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
 * A fine piece of work. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:00, 27 February 2019 (UTC)