Talk:Arunachalesvara Temple

Annamalaiyar Temple
Annamalaiyar is the right word as the temple itself in Tiruannamalai, in all the documents relating to this temple mentions Annamalayar only and it is a Tamil word. It would be more appropriate to call this temple in Tamil word(Annamalai) than in Sanskrit word (Arunachala), because the temple is in Tamil Nadu. Rajan 10:18, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

The spelling of Annamalaiyar needs to be consistent. I am correcting the spelling to the one of the page. Arunachalesha 15:40, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Details required

 * 1) when built - not clear as per sources i know, but is after 850 AD.
 * 2) by whom - original creators not clear as per sources i know
 * 3) size (24-25 acres) and some detail of what it has
 * 4) sources not cited, it seems
 * 5) Kartikai Deepam

one can try getting some info from and  Arunachalesha 15:48, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Suggestions

 * There is no necessity of having two sections on "Pancha Bhoota Stalam" and "Aathara Stala". Bundle them up in some section called "Religious significance" or similar, and just mention that that the temple is part of the group and importance in the group. "The temple is part of the Pancha Bhoota Stalam, five Shiva temples representing the manifestation of the five prime elements. In Tiruvannamalai temple, Shiva is said to have manifested himself in the form of massive column of fire, whose crown and feet could not be found by the Hindu God of creation, Brahma and Hindu God of saving, Vishnu. Agni Lingam explains the mythics of life - duty, virtue, self-sacrifice and finally liberation through ascetic life at the end of Agni kalpa." The rest of info is WP:UNDUE here. Similarly with Aathara Stala.
 * Do not repeat info eg. "A celebration of this manifestation is seen even today in the age old traditions observed during the festivals of Sivarathri and Karthigai Deepam.[3][30]" should go in festivals.
 * Inconsistency in using hill name: Arunachala, Annamalai hill. Inconsistency in other spellings: Shiva/Siva; Parvati/Parvathi. Stick to one.
 * Confused: How is Ashta Lingam related to the temple? Is the Agni Lingam in Ashta Lingam - the Annamalaiyar Temple?
 * The "Annamalai" section has some WP:UNDUE problems. No need of the section. Merge it with some "Religious significance" or similar and stick to info directly related to the temple. Things like "The western world learnt about the hill during the mid of 19th century after the advent of popular saint, Ramana Maharishi(1879-1950 A.D.).[7] Ramanar's meditation cave is on the lower slopes of hill and the ashram(hermitage) complex is on the foothills" are UNDUE, relate to the hill rather than the temple. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 08:39, 22 October 2011 (UTC)


 * All changes made. Annamalai temple is considered along the with the annamalai hills.  The temple lingam is called Agni lingam, while ashta lingam refers to the eight lingams in small shrines around the temple - i have reworded to avoid confusion S Sriram(talk - my page - contribs) 20:03, 22 October 2011 (UTC)ssriram_mt


 * The article needs copyediting. Some commas, "a"s, "the"s are missing. I suggest approach the WP:GOCE.
 * What is a matif? "Geologically the hill is an isolated matif of volcanic rock"
 * The hill info in Legend section is out of place
 * Instead of relative wording like "date back approximately 1200 years" which changes over time. Write something like "9th century AD"
 * Italic for all books or poems
 * Link Vijayalaya, Nawabs of Carnatic and other rulers
 * Add years for dynasties like Tuluva Dynasty(1491-1570 A.D.)
 * Replace dead link
 * The Architecture section needs a rewrite. It repeats info about Rajagopuram, fluctuates (talks about gopurams then walls then again gopurams), needs copyediting. Split into more paras: 1 on gopurams, another on deities and shrines; mandapas; others.
 * The Tanjavuri Andhra Raja Charitamu mentions his building the gopuram and other prakarams(precincts of the temple)- who is the he in the "his" building?
 * Same problem with Festivals: repetition of info
 * Use full names for months, not Nov /Dec
 * Inconsistency of spellings: Nandi/Nandhi, Pancha Bhoota Stalam/Sthala
 * WP:OVERLINKing: link an article only one at first instance.
 * Giri Valam seems UNDUE, more appropriate in the hill article
 * Link the chakra: Manipooraga. Is it Manipura?

-- Redtigerxyz Talk 13:52, 23 October 2011 (UTC)


 * All the above changes are made with these exceptions

Pls help for the next level, thanks. S Sriram(talk - my page - contribs) 23:06, 23 October 2011 (UTC)ssriram_mt
 * some overlinking seen as infobox and links far from first are considered exceptions.
 * The Annamalai hill is not a separate entity as such - Girivalam is associated with the temple.
 * Some kings have no links and their years of rule could not be found

-- Redtigerxyz Talk 17:44, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Still inconsistency: Siva/Shiva; Saivism/Shaiva (stick with S/Sh), Tamil Nadu/Tamilnadu
 * Repetition: "The 11 tiered (217 feet (66 m)) eastern tower" and "The Rajagopuram(main tower) which adorns the east gateway is 217 feet tall with 11 storeys". I still think that Architecture needs a better flow and smaller paras (Shrines and Hallls is huge).
 * IMO, Giri Valam should be part of hill article and linked from here.
 * Still needs copyediting eg. the Kalahateeswarar shrine, the Vijayanagara style, the Pathala lingam. Hindu God of creation -> god of creation (common noun). the mythics of life???
 * Religious Significance: "Shiva, a Hindu god,". Why this definition again?
 * Link once in lead and then in relevant section or at first instance.

>>>>> Have incorporated all the comments - removed girivalam details.

S Sriram(talk - my page - contribs) 00:33, 12 November 2011 (UTC)ssriram_mt

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Requested move 18 September 2018

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The result of the move request was: Moved. (non-admin closure) Iffy★Chat -- 09:45, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Annamalaiyar Temple → Arunachalesvara Temple – As per RS the temple name is Arunachalesvara Temple or with alternate spelling as Arunachaleswara Temple. This is the most common name used anywhere including Tamilnadu. The name Annamalayar is secondary name not common when compared to Arunachalesvara, but is used locally within some parts of TN. And moreover it has to be noted that the artcile NEVER mentioned(removed without proper explanation) the actual name when every other scholarly article mentions it so.
 * Sources Books:
 * News sources:.

We need to move article to Arunachalesvara Temple and mention Annamalaiyar as alternate name in the article. aggi007(talk) 10:51, 18 September 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 21:04, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Almost all the sources that are cited in the article are also referring to the temple as Arunachalesvara Temple. aggi007(talk) 10:56, 18 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Support, per RS and common name. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 06:59, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Support - i vaguely remember this came up long time back for similar temples. We have a Sanskrit name for most temples in Tamil Nadu and a Tamil name. The dispute has always had been to retain the less popular Tamil names. WP common name should prevail in all such cases. Ssriram mt (talk) 13:33, 19 September 2018 (UTC)


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Requesting Move Review to rename this article from Arunachalesvara to Arunachaleswarar Temple
I see that there already has been a discussion to name this article as Arunachalesvara temple Talk:Arunachalesvara Temple BUT this temple among local is usually refereed as Arunchalaeswarar temple - Even the Government documents and the temple website refers it so - please refer to the official temple owned website here

Also the commonly used name is Arunachaleswarar Temple and the sanskritised name Arunachalesvara is rarely used name among the locals and the temple neighborhoods.

Even the news source citations linked in the prior decision refers the temple as - Arunachaleswarar temple 

I recommend and request we rename this article as either Arunchalaeswarar Temple - considering it as a common name.

Recommending this article name for Move Review Karthik Sripal (talk) 12:00, 10 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Adding prior move requestor and closers for this review and resolution internally
 * @Aggi007@Ms Sarah Welch @Ssriram mt Karthik Sripal (talk) 12:07, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Reference to Ganesha as a Elephant God is wrong
Hi. The part that talks about Vinyakar aka Ganesha as Elephant God is wrong and probably done by someone who does not understand Hinduism or the symbolism associated with Ganesha. Please edit it accordingly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.200.192.43 (talk) 05:53, 24 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you for reporting it - I have it now removed. Karthik Sripal (talk) 14:49, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Shrine pic
Undid revision 1077623115 by Usernamekiran. The shrine is visible, and unless there is a better pic, dont remove this Venkat TL (talk) 11:00, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

No. Shrine is not visible.

history section
In history section it is written "The inscriptions in temple from the Vijayanagara kings indicate emphasis on administrative matters and local concerns, which contrasts the inscriptions of the same rulers in other temples like Tirupathi."

My question is - what is the contrast? Please elaborate in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.67.191.38 (talk) 09:13, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Is rather a river/s near the temple? And what would be the name/s be?
As above any rivers close by and their names. Best time to visit? 2607:9880:21F7:FFDE:EB17:3659:84C2:E083 (talk) 08:07, 18 February 2023 (UTC)