Talk:Aryan certificate

Legal relevance nowadays
Suggested wording: "Among other documents, the Aryan certificate is still recognised today by German authorities as proof of nationality, since it contains officially certified birth and marriage data which are deemed to be a substitute for corresponding original documents. This is remarkable insofar as the Aryan certificate is based on implementing provisions for discriminatory laws repealed by the Control Council Act of 20 September 1945." This is quite curious, but an officially authenticated document is considered true, even if it was issued in the Nazi era (when such documents were subject to manipulation). Pier~dewiki, 13:50, 23. Jun. 2018 (CEST)
 * Published. Pier~dewiki, 20:36, 06. July 2018 (CEST)


 * The second part was already removed by someone else, but I'd just point out that there's nothing really curious about it. For the issuing of the document, birth and marriage documentation was verified, so that data could be considered as accurately representing those. As it's very possible that the original documentation was destroyed in the war, you have to use what's there. If your concern is that the information has been manipulated, you can just as well start questioning birth and marriage certificates from the time, too. The certificates are no longer used under the provisions of the discriminatory laws, as not having is not any kind of disadvantage, but there is no reason not to see them as documentation that the person at issue presented themselves to authorities with a birth or marriage certificate carrying the information included in the document. Since automatic German citizenship is still largely based on ius sanguinis, rather than ius soli as it is in the US, the question of parentage is key to the question of automatic nationality. --2A02:810C:3C0:1D64:4C6E:3B2C:CE5B:D4AE (talk) 13:05, 15 December 2019 (UTC)