Talk:Asa Gray

Add external link
Please add a link to , which is editing and publishing all of the correspondence of Charles Darwin. Asa Gray was a significant correspondent of Darwin. Eadp 14:17, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Several of these letters are in the article now.   HalfGig   talk  16:08, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Gray and Charles Darwin met at Kew, introduced by Joseph Dalton Hooker.
when? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.196.166.161 (talk) 10:02, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * This has been answered.   HalfGig   talk  16:08, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Working note
For future use :    HalfGig   talk  16:07, 17 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Crataegus
 * Wilhelm Suksdorf
 * Sereno Watson, re Greene and Jones
 * see    HalfGig   talk  19:44, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Gray +
 * Sereno Watson -
 * Edward L. Greene (botany) -
 * Marcus E. Jones -
 * all - to Gray and or Suksdorf
 * HalfGig  talk  20:07, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Gray and Special Creation
This passage under “Relationship with Darwin” troubled me because it seemed inconsistent with Gray’s support of Darwin.

“Special creation” rules out the ability of natural selection to produce new species. I was not able to consult the book referenced in the note, but I did find something written by Gray that supports his rejection of special creation. Arguing against the “anti-evolution” arguments of Dawson’s The Story of the Earth and Man, Gray clearly rules out “special creation” as an appropriate explanatory argument.



I am no expert and came here for basic information. I don’t think I know enough to edit the article, but I am concerned that Gray is being misrepresented. Tpmpmurphy (talk) 02:32, 25 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Here's exactly what the paragraph says:

HalfGig  talk  01:32, 24 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes, I have to agree that special creation is not what Asa Gray favoured. Agassiz's view that all species were created even with the exact geographic distributions that they now cover, would match that more closely, but Gray is arguing for natural selection being "governed" by a creator. "One, indeed, who believes, from revelation or any other cause, in the existence of such a Creator, the fountain and Source of all things in heaven above and in the earth beneath, will see in natural variation, the struggle for life, and natural selection, only the order or mode in which this Creator, in his own perfect wisdom, sees fit to act." I've attempted to clarify. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 21:17, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much.   HalfGig   talk  22:11, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

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Tangential hodgepodge tendency
One of this article's main authors did not wish to edit down the Dupree biography to its essentials, but rather converted it into this article! Meaning that the wealth of little details normally found in a full-volume biography is not pared down sufficiently to make the narrative which an encyclopedia article requires. Time of death, to the minute, geographic extent of a cemetery, and similar factoids clogged up this article. Anyone who has the time may continue declogging this otherwise useful and interesting article.--Quisqualis (talk) 21:28, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
 * This has been worked on.   HalfGig   talk  22:10, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

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