Talk:Asante people

Hey Kids
Please don't do anything to this yet, I plan on progressively adding more information. Currently it overlaps with Ashanti People and Ashanti Confederacy but this is consolidating the two and making them better. Any assistance would be nice, it's hard to edit wikipedia for the first time and not know much html. --Blambloom 08:51, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Saved link
Thought this might be useful later in the article: war incantations

Discrepencies
Hi. I'm responding to the request to edit this page. I'm noticing some discrepencies. I'm going to go ahead and edit with attribution. Feel free to do the same. Regards. Gallador 06:08, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Peer review
A couple of comments:

There is a big problem with the emphasis on the War of the Golden Stool (known in Asante as the Yaa Asantewaa War). A two year conflict gets as much attention as the rest of Asante history! Most of the material seems to have been hived off from an existing article on the War of the Golden Stool.

The section on colonialism is misleading. It implies that the British always intended to conquer Asante but failed to do so throughout the 19th century. British control was limited to very small coastal enclaves until the last quarter of the 19th century. A basic chronology and more neutral point of view would be welcome.

There needs to be a section on the Asante civil war.

Modern Asante nationalism is downplayed - I don't think it's true that Ghanaian nationalism overrides Asante identity, and this certainly needs a reference. A section on the National Liberation Movement (a specifically Asante challenge to pan-Ghanaian nationalism at the time of decolonization) would be useful and illuminating in this respect.

The section on mythology and religion could be expanded, and supplemented with the related topic of state/royal ideology. The key writer on this topic is T. C. McCaskie. I also think that the line "The Ashanti people of Ghana in West Africa are known for their colorful folktales and mythology" is superfluous, a bit patronising, and probably applicable to every people in the world! I've left it in but it doesn't read well.

I don't have time at the moment, but in a few weeks I would be glad to help expand and edit this article. Sunjata 22:05, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Merge from Empire of Ashanti
The new Empire of Ashanti article seems to me to contain information that should be in this article. Comments, anyone? --Hugh Charles Parker (talk - contribs) 09:38, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


 * There is also the Asanteman article. I started that article because at the time there appeared no article dedicated to the pre-colonial state. I suggest that the Empire of Ashanti be merged into the Asanteman article. There might be some debate as to which name to use. Asanteman is the name the native people used meaning "Asante Union". This is english wikipedia so we might just use Asante Empire (as opposed to kingdom since it ruled over many people who were not Asante or even Akan). Irregardless of that, a separate articles must be maintained for the state and another for the people. Scott Free 15:45, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I see no reason why there shouldn't be an article on the Ashanti. People and empires are two different things as people run empires and empires consist of territory. I'm sure there are those that would like an elaboration on who these people are and were, as well as having an article over viewing the kingdom they controlled. We have an article on the Mandinka, however, I again see no good reason why that article should be merged with the page on the Mali Empire. How are we to receive focused information on the Mandinka from an article focused on an empire controlled by them? This naturally applies to this article, so sensibly it would be more responsible if it were to stay put. Asanteman is another issue.Taharqa 21:00, 28 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi everyone. I've taken it upon myself to move all relevant info from Asanteman into the Empire of Ashanti page. Asanteman will now redirect to empire of Ashanti.  Furthermoe, i have incorporated much of the pertinent info from the Empire of Ashanti page into the Ashanti page.  I just added stuff relating to the people and not every detail about the empire.  It seems that all concerned parties have agreed to keep the pages "separate but equal" (sorry, couldn't help myself) so i'm removing the discuss tag on the Ashanti page.  i already removed it from the empire of ashanti page.  HOLLA.Scott Free 02:02, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Pictures and flags
Does anyone have any pictures of flags or anything for the Empire of Ashanti??? Kwame1234 21:24, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

The Ga People's are not related to The Ashanti/Akan
I think the "Ga" people should be removed from the list of "related peoples". The Ga people speak a language completely foreign to the Ashanti and the Akan, and their culture is completely different. They live in a geographically different part of Ghana, and they have different customs and traditions. And present day Ashanti/Akan don't really want to be identified with the Ga, seeing as there groups typically don't get along very well. I think that Ashanti/Akan nationalism/arrogance has been downplayed in this article as well, Ashanti nationalism overrides Ghanaian nationalism. The relationship between the Ashanti/Akan and the ga is similar to that of the the Arabs and the Persians. Iranians and Saudis look similar, but geographically different, different language, different culture. iranians are persians, not arabs. I have left it, but I think it should be removed. Kwame1234 18:10, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree. The Ga are not at all an Akan peaople. Cosal 04:11, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

what happened
When I edited this article it was okay, now its trash.There are random bold words, little chronological order, no research, and overall poor quality. Anyone willing to fix it? --129.59.97.197 (talk) 02:57, 2 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I removed the bold type Gallador (talk) 13:52, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Asante vs. Ashanti
Recent scholarship prefers Asante to Ashanti (cf. Otumfuo, Nana Agyeman Prempeh I, The History of Ashanti Kings and the Whole Country Itself and Other Writings, Oxford: Published for the British Academy by Oxford University Press, 2003). Thoughts? I can certainly provide other references preferring Asante. --Lunacat256 (talk) 14:32, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Based on the title, oxford is using Ashanti not Asante. Duqsene (talk) 05:01, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Redirect??
Why does Ashanti redirect here? People may be equally looking for the empire or the region. It would make more sense to rename Ashanti (disambibuation) to Ashanti. KKoolstra (talk) 09:13, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

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Numbers
There are mentioned several different numbers (1.0 mil.; 1.5 mil.; little time ago there was even 11 mil.) withnout proper sources. I am confused. Can someone bring up credible source and clear the mess?--89.177.238.52 (talk) 22:35, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

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How many?
You can read:


 * Ashanti language is spoken by over 9 million ethnic Ashanti people as a first or second language.

So, at least 9 000 000 Ashanti people. But also you can read:


 * Today Ashanti people number close to 3 million

3 000 000, which is one third of the previous number.

What number can we consider the real one or closer to reality?

Many other wikipedias say they are 1/3 of Ghana's population, so it seems 9M would be the good one.

--77.75.179.1 (talk) 19:07, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

== The Asante, also known as Ashanti (/əˈʃɑːntiː/ (listen)), are part of the Akan ethnic group and are native to the Ashanti Region of modern-day Ghana. Asantes are the last group to emerge out of the various Akan civilisations. Twi is spoken by over nine million Asante people as a first or second language.[1][2][3] ==

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