Talk:Asexuality

Definition of asexuality needs to be edited.
Asexuality should be defined according to wider sources as no sexual attraction, limited sexual attraction or conditional sexual attraction, as said by Julie Sondra Decker, who goes over demisexuality and gray-asexuality, saying that primary sexual attraction might be lacking in those individuals, but they are still part of the ace community. And the AVEN website says those are limited or conditional, so it should be included in the definition.

No sexual attraction and no desire for sex is Black Stripe Aces. Which was the section of the ace community who defined themselves as such, but not the whole tof the ace community, so I'd like to have a more expansive definition for asexuality at the top, which does include aven's own definition on asexuality. (If you go digging.) This is for accuracy sake.

Also, gotta say, I still hate Anthony Bogaert as an ace. He keeps boasting about how everyone in the ace community agrees with him, when they don't.--KimYunmi (talk) 18:33, 28 October 2023 (UTC)


 * I can agree that the page should be improved, but if you could share some sources that would allow for such improvements, that would be great. Historyday01 (talk) 23:33, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Sexual attraction to others, common or not, falls under allosexuality (an umbrella term derived from the greek prefix "allo-" meaning "other", including graysexuality and demisexuality), not asexuality (derived from the prefix "a-" meaning "without"), and the article for this and aromanticism should be updated accordingly. Furthermore, a black stripe asexual is just an asexual - a gray stripe graysexual is a graysexual. --WikiEditor7448729858 (talk) 19:14, 21 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Both asexuality and aromanticism are considered a spectrum, under which greysexual and greyromantic fall, and as such, the main articles on Asexuality and Aromanticism are defined as this spectrum with "little to no" per the reliable sources supporting the definitions. Raladic (talk) 23:01, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * 'Graysexual' (little desire for partnered sex) cannot fall under 'asexual' (no desire for partnered sex), else they would be redundant. Hence, 'graysexual' would fall under 'allosexual', an umbrella term for any sexual orientation that leads to a desire for partnered sex; this is corroborated by the Wikipedia article for Allosexuality in which the linked sources indicate that any "sexual attraction" would put one under the allosexuality umbrella. WikiEditor7448729858 (talk) 18:45, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

This does not accurately define asexuality.
Asexuality is a sexual orientation. Asexuals are not attracted to any gender at all. People who have low sex drives, or who require romance before sex are found in all sexual orientations (asexuality, hetrosexuality, bisexuality, and homosexuality), and they are not asexuals. Deshaar (talk) 21:22, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * You may note that another editor, in the section just above this, is also suggesting the definition should be changed, but to something different to yours; do you see the problem?
 * Good Wikipedia articles are duly weighted summaries of verifiable, well sourced information. It's not our place to create our assessment of the subject, a practice we call "original research", but to follow some arduously discussed and mostly agreed policies and guidelines as best we can.
 * There is a simpler response to these this should be fixed concerns, and that is "WP:SOFIXIT". That's a snippy shortcut to one of Wikipedia's five pillars. Give it a read for a deeper understanding of this situation, then follow the links it contains to build a comprehensive understanding of how good articles are curated.  00:58, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * The broadly agreed on definition of asexual is little to no sexual attraction; to imply otherwise would be making a judgement about the “validity” of a particular identity, which is not the purpose of wikipedia.
 * If you have credible sources for your claim, I suppose it could be framed as “Some definitions of asexuality…”, but I can’t find any Saturniapavonia (talk) 21:24, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

minor edit
the definition for squish in wiktionary is “(slang) A non-romantic and generally non-sexual infatuation with somebody one is not dating, or the object of that infatuation; a platonic crush.”

Therefore, “A squish is a term used by the asexual community to describe a non-sexual crush.” should be changed to a definition closer to the wiktionary definition. It also seems to be the general consensus that not being romantic is an essential element of a squish Saturniapavonia (talk) 21:41, 29 May 2024 (UTC)