Talk:Asha Bhosle/Archive 1

Pronunciation please?
Would someone please add one of those cool pronunciation things for Asha Bhosle? I don't know how it's supposed to be pronounced. JECompton (talk) 17:50, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

NPOV
This article now needs some NPOV and copyedit. heidimo 17:32, 9 May 2004 (UTC)
 * recent edits by 68.192.156.127 have included more non-NPOV content --AbsolutDan (talk) 03:08, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Womad Talking...
This section should not be included in this article. Please put it where it belongs. utcursch 10:00, Dec 3, 2004 (UTC)

She contributed a stand-out song to the recording "Womad Talking Book Volume Four: An Introduction to Asia 1" on Womad Records. The song is Yuhn Na Thi and showcases Bhosle's vocal abilities. She also worked with Ustad Akbar Ali Khan on Legacy, an outstanding album.

Personnel on this recording:
 * Asha Bhosle, vocals
 * Ali Akbar Khan, sarode
 * Swapan Chaudhuri, tabla and pakawaj

Tracks on this recording:
 * Guru Bandana in Desh Malhar
 * Hori in Kukubh Bilawal
 * Tarana in Adana
 * Tarana in Bhimpalasri
 * Kheyal in Gour Sarang
 * Dhrupad in Sankara Bharan
 * Sadra in Sankara Karan
 * Tarana in Mian ki Malhar (bidar style)
 * Tarana in Bhimpalasri
 * Tarana in Bhupali
 * Hori in Bhairavi
 * Prayer in Bhairavi

Source: "Womad Talking Book Volume Four: An Introduction to Asia 1" liner notes.

Sections?
The articles looks like a large blob of information. We need to divide it up into suitable sections. - 17 Feb, 2005
 * Done. utcursch | talk 09:21, August 24, 2005 (UTC)

Nomenclature and other things.
I have been enlisted by Zora to start making edits - hello all! Do talk to me on my discussion pages as well to work on articles elsewhere.

First things first - it's more encyclopaedic and Wikiform to refer to Asha as Bhosle for the purposes of the article. Remember that Wikipedia pages aren't intended to be a repository for fan sites ;o). Please understand those changes as they are brought in. I will be dropping in every now and again to amalgamate sections and to prune others. I need to get my head around just how compendious we need to get! Will be joining in the superhuman efforts of utcursch Autumnleaf 14:57, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Hello Autumnleaf! I saw your edits - really good. You can help clean-up the article. Regarding the nomenclature, I think it's doesn't look right to refer to Asha Bhosle as "Bhosle". But you are right too - it's not proper to call her "Asha" either. So, I think we should simply call her "Asha Bhosle" throughout the article - this might mean an increase of few bytes. utcursch | talk 05:57, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback; really helpful. I guess I went for the classic 'last name' approach as that is the universal custom and these pages are intended as much for the disinterested as they are for those who have heard of her. It is not disrespectful this convention! ML King gets called King after all. Autumnleaf 22:52, 29 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Interesting discussion, this one. Also, we have a convention on Wikipedia where we use British English for UK and India-related articles and American English for US-related articles. Similarly, since newspapers like The Hindu, magazines like India Today and websites like rediff.com do not use the classic "last name" approach but use first name (e.g. Asha), we should probably follow that. There was a slightly related discussion taking place at Wikipedia_talk:Notice_board_for_India-related_topics/archive4. I believe that WP:INWNB and its talkpage should be the right place to discuss these; otherwise, others may end up re-inventing the wheel and having similar discussions on talkpages of other articles. Pl. consider this as just a suggestion, though. --Gurubrahma 05:28, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I had a look at the discussion . Actually I am not concerned about the general firstname-lastname issue. But for this particular article, calling Ashaji "Bhosle" looks a bit odd - especially, since her husband treated her so badly. Also, she has been always identified as a part of the Mangeshkar family. To an Indian reader, it would look odd if we say "Bhosle's husband was R D Burman" or "Bhosle has collaborated with many foreign artists". But then, I guess people from other part of the world might find it disrespectful to refer Ashaji by her first name. Usually, in English articles about her, she is referred to as "Ashaji", but that doesn't look encyclopedic. So, I would say, let's just call her "Asha Bhosle" throughout the article. utcursch | talk 08:48, 3 December 2005 (UTC)


 * I realize this is a rather old discussion, but I thought it might be interesting to notice that nowhere in the article Madonna is the subject referred to with just her last name, and her full name is only used once, at the start of the article. If Asha Bhonsle is commonly referred to as Asha(ji), the article should reflect that, just like Madonna's article does. Junuxx (talk) 22:21, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Some revision
I started by correcting one egregious bit of "Hinglish" and ended up rewriting the first part of the article. Then I scrolled down and realized that I had barely scratched the surface. This article is a MESS. It's repetitive, badly written, disorganized, and replete with fancruft. We need to cleanly separate out the personal life from the professional achievements, for one thing. Will do more as I have time. Zora 11:03, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I've removed some fancruft/POV added by 203.200.40.194 earlier. utcursch | talk 07:42, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

I do not know whether this is the proper place to suggest, I believe a section about Asha's Marathi songs should be included in this article, unfortunately I am not competent to add it.

Articles for deletion
This article was nominated for deletion. I've unilateraly speedy kept it in my typically arrogant and "what the fuck?" manner. Rob Church (talk) 14:46, 18 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you. The AfD was mere trolling and vandalism. Zora 18:32, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

MP3
Global Trekker Albums has downloadable MP3 that you could link to. Some feature Asha Bhosle with Western arrangements. --Error 20:36, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Bhosle or Bhonse
Isn't Bhonsle a more common spelling for her name? Asha Bhonsle has about 100 thousand more results than Asha Bhosle. Mar de Sin  Speak up!  01:57, 18 October 2006 (UTC)


 * There is no standard translation scheme for Indian names to English. Since, her IMDB entry calls her "Asha Bhosle", the Wikipedia article about her is located at Asha Bhosle. The note Asha_Bhosle states the alternative spellings. By the way, which search engine did you use? Google returns more results for "Asha Bhosle" than "Asha Bhonsle":
 * Asha Bhosle: 813,000 results
 * Asha Bhonsle: 85,400 results
 * utcursch | talk 03:24, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I used google, I just didn't put the "quotes". I know that many sources use "Bhosle", but I'm pretty sure most Indian music sites use "Bhonsle" (Raaga, Smashits, etc.)  I think "Bhonsle" deserves at least some mentioning on this article. Thanks.  Mar de Sin   Speak up!  02:00, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I completely missed the note, sorry! Mar de Sin   Speak up!  02:01, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Phonetically, "Bhonsle" is more appropriate s opposed to " Bhosle". There's a slight difference between the two. "Bhonsle" shows the slight nasal touch the word has while being pronounced whereas "Bhosle" doesn't.  Madhubala1933 (talk) 05:05, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

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Encyclopaedia of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh
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Career in Marathi - please provide your inputs on the following
Hi all,

I intend to insert the following section on this page. Please provide your inputs/suggestions/corrections on the same. If you feel the contents are fit to be put on wiki, put your remark accordingly. Thanks in advance.

Following is the section:

Career in Marathi

http://www.aathavanitli-gani.com/Lists/Singer%20Details/Asha%20Bhosale.asp List of some of the Marathi songs sung by Asha Bhosle At the age of 10, Asha started her career as a singer in a Marathi film Majha Bal. Since then Asha Bhosle has sung thousands of Marathi film songs, Bhavgeet (non-film songs), Natya sangeet for Marathi Sangeet Natak.www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBP-cqaJR3k Natya Sangeet Sung By Asha Bhosle Asha has re-recorded many Natya Sangeetas which were originally sung by various other artists when recording facilities were not in use. She, along with Hridaynath Mangeshkar has recorded many new versions of old songs even modifying the music. Her first recording with Hridaynath was of Chaandane Shimpit Jaashi.

Few of Marathi films in which Asha Bhosle has rendered her voice are: Jait re Jait, Devbappa, Sangtye Aika, Singhasan, Saamna, Maratha Tituka Melvava, Laxmichi Paule, Kas, Mahananda, Nivdung,

Asha Bhosle performs Marathi songs in many stage shows. Her stage show Nakshatranche Dene is very popular. She also usually sings atleast 1 marathi song in her hindi songs concerts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa3cCEIlUyU&feature=related Natya Sangeet Sung By Asha Bhosle in concert in Mumbai in 2000

In Marathi, Asha Bhosle has worked with following music directors


 * Hridaynath Mangeshkar
 * Anandghan (i.e.Lata Mangeshkar)
 * Sudhir Phadke
 * Shridhar Phadke
 * Vasant Pawar
 * C.Ramchandra
 * Ashok Patki
 * Shrinivas Khale
 * Pu. La. Deshpande
 * N. Dutta
 * Vasantkumar Mohite
 * Dutta Davjekar
 * Vishwanath More
 * Vasant Prabhu
 * Yeshwant Deo
 * Vasant Desai
 * Arun Paudwal
 * Baal Palsule
 * Prabhakar Jog
 * Ram Kadam
 * Hemant Bhosle


 * I doubt that Youtube videos can be given as references. - Animeshkulkarni (talk) 14:39, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Her first song with Hridaynath is not Chandanyat Phirtana but Chaandane Shimpit Jaashi, thats what she said in her Nakshatranche Dene program. Thanks. Vivvt (talk) 14:49, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh yes! sorry! thats right! Corrected it. -Animeshkulkarni (talk) 15:08, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

List of songs?
Huge task!! But can we do it. i mean wiki has List of songs by Elvis Presley. If we want to do it, please someone who is very familiar with Wikipedia should propose a simple way. -Animeshkulkarni (talk) 18:40, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Please refer ot the discussion on Talk:Lata Mangeshkar & contribute your views there for this topic. -Animeshkulkarni (talk) 15:29, 20 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Started with Lata's songs now. You all can now help here.... User:Animeshkulkarni/List of songs by Lata Mangeshkar -§Animeshkulkarni (talk) 15:11, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Mentioning Caste
Dear Editors! There has been a discussion on India Portal related to mentioning of caste of subjects. The point is that mentioning caste of people, who have nothing to do with their caste, is found to be unnecessary by few editors. Hence the caste of the subject person needs to be deleted from the biography. I am not deleting the caste as of now but am only posting this here so that the regular editors of this article are well aware of it beforehand and no edit-wars take place. For details of discussion held on the portal please refer Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics. Your views if any are welcome there or even here. And.... as the reasons of exclusion of caste pointed out were "irrelavant to notability of subject person", "privacy of the subject person", "inclusion of caste is like branding individuals", etc. other information included in the article which also fall under these cases will also be removed after discussions. Examples of it included religion, non-notable spouse's and children's and parents' information, previous occupation, lived in places, non-notability related educational qualification, etc. Your views on this are also welcome here or at the India portal. -Animeshkulkarni (talk) 16:56, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Not here, please. There is a community discussion taking place at WT:INB and I would advise people to read the entire discussion before forming an opinion because the above summary is incorrect. Nothing more need be said here. - Sitush (talk) 02:20, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 8 October 2012
Today Oct 8, 2012, Asha's daughter Varsha, committed suicide more at http://en-maktoob.news.yahoo.com/asha-bhosles-daughter-commits-suicide-080449437.html

This needs to be incorporated in her page asap.

Imranokazmi (talk) 12:11, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

✅. Torreslfchero (talk) 18:13, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Asha Bhosle's daughter Varsha age 56, who was suffering from depression, today committed suicide by shooting herself
Asha Bhosle's daughter Varsha age 56, who was suffering from depression, today committed suicide by shooting herself. this info is not present in the page, please include the same.

reference ::

http://movies.ndtv.com/movie_story.aspx?ID=276906&subcatg=&keyword=music&nid=276906&pfrom=home-topstories — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mukeshacharya (talk • contribs) 15:03, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Too many Language Categories
I just counted and found that this article has been place in NINE Language Categories (which doesn't even include the related categories for playback singer ethnicity). That's a really outlandish number! It seems to me that these categories should be limited to her primary languages, rather than including every language she has ever sung or recorded a few songs in. After all, in this day and age, singers everywhere on the planet are likely to sing or record in any number of languages on occasion. It just isn't meaningful in terms of categorization. Cgingold (talk) 16:22, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 February 2014
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Separate award article
An editor created the article List of awards received by Asha Bhosle in January, which was perhaps intended to be a split from this article, but this one never got cleaned out and the two lists of awards mostly overlap. Does someone want to finish the split by moving to the other article all the award information from this one and then condensing or eliminating the information that's here, or should the bit of information that's there by merged into here, followed by deletion of the other article? —Largo Plazo (talk) 02:03, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 July 2015
Active: 1943-present

Naveanraj (talk) 09:27, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 17 February 2018
How can she divorce in 1960 when eloped with harsha in 1959 at the age of 16?. She had three kids by him in one year? Nothing is written about Harsha mistreating and beating her before divorce Nothing has been written about her boycott by lata. Harsha was Lata secretary when she eloped with him. lata boycotted asha for 16 years. HOW CAN WIKIPEDIA BE PAROCHIAL?? 178.153.190.25 (talk) 18:01, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 18 April 2018
"Asha's first husband Ganpatrao was her personal secretary"???!!!. He was eloped at 16 and and it is highly unlikely to have a secretary at that age, specially she didn't start working then?. or Ganpatrao was her elder sister Lata Bhosle's secretary? Shan1666 (talk) 04:25, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
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