Talk:Ashford, Kent/Archive 1

[cp Swindon and Crewe]
In the Railways section what does [cp Swindon and Crewe] mean? I understand about the comparison with Swindon and Crewe but I've never heard of 'cp'. Is it a typo? Chris 18:05, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Could "cp" stand for "cum partibus", being "with the parties"? "e.g." or "like" would be easier to understand. Andy


 * Thanks, i've already changed it to 'like', "cum partibus" could translate to "as partner", so you could be right. Olive Oil [[Image:Olive fruit on the branch (2007).jpg|50px|]] 16:34, 1 May 2006 (UTC)


 * My more worldly wise, better half, has looked in a book and says "cp" is an abbreviation for 'compare'. Olive Oil [[Image:Olive fruit on the branch (2007).jpg|50px|]] 16:37, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Category:People from Ashford, Kent suggestion
There is a category. Instead of the long list in the article, perhaps a link to here. Probably have to update the category in the peoples article too. Transfer the more notable list members to a mention within appropriate sections. The ones who attended school could be mentioned in Education, Musicians mentioned in Arts, Sportsmen in sport. This makes it easier to write prose and lose the frowned upon list. MortimerCat 22:04, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Germany Map
Is the map showing where Bad Münstereifel is located really necessary? I also noticed that the Bad Münstereifel article does not mention Ashford. MortimerCat 15:31, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I think it would be good to expand the sections relating to each of the twin towns, with details of the similarities and if/how the twinning works, however i think
 * the map fills the understanding of where in Germany they are,
 * the Bad Münstereifel article does not mention very much at all, never mind Ashford
 * is there a better option? perhaps this should be added to the task list on WikiProject Kent/Article improvement
 * - Olive Oil -ŢάĽɮ - 19:28, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree, expand the twinning section but I still think the map is superfluous. If I really wanted to know where they are in Germany, I would click the link. Secondly, you would need two more maps (France and America) to be consistent. The link to the foreign language article seems a bit strange too. The English version Bad Münstereifel now mentions Ashford. MortimerCat 20:41, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Judith and Fergus Wilson
I'm surprised there is no mention of the Wilsons anywhere in Wikipedia - I would have expected a seperate article about them. They are well known - or famous - for owing 700 houses in Ashford, making an approx £200m fortune. Theyve had more than one tv program about them. See for example http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&q=judith+wilson+ashford&btnG=Search&meta=cr%3DcountryUK%7CcountryGB I had been puzzled for some time by how they could keep buying houses without running out of money for the 15% deposit, but the most recent tv programme I saw about them says they bought houses 'off-plan' in a rising market, so their 15% equity was covered by the rise in price between them agreeing to buy it and needing to pay for it. I've also read they bought property cheap and in bulk from a distressed developer. 80.0.127.234 12:50, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * If you'd like an article on them created, please go to WP:RA and request it. Alternatively, create an account and you can do it yourself.  Just make sure that the proposed article complies with WP:N and WP:BLP first. Waggers 14:34, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:16, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Rewrite of article
This article had a great many things wrong with it. It should be borne in mind that this is about the town of Ashford, and not the borough. In that case the text should strictly adhere to its parameters. It does not do this - an example being the inclusion of a school (Swadelands) many miles outside the town. Local tourist attractions and some of the long distance footpaths are also more tourist based - not for an encyclopaedia article - and many of the former are miles from the town itself. That should answer the previous comment, since I have deleted them all ...?

The article was set out in an entirely illogical order: eg the future of the town appeared before what it is like now! I have now included many disparate pieces under Geography and added a piece about the town site. The section is now greatly expanded. It did not seem necessary to go through all the "famous people" again, since there is a list doing that elsewhere, although I am unsure of the need for the article List of people from Ashford, Kent nor the Category:People from Ashford, Kent, when there aren’t a similar ones for the other towns? We must be consistent, surely? I have only included a note about the secondary schools; again there is a separate article listing all schools, not followed elsewhere - cp Maidstone. Peter Shearan (talk) 06:56, 27 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I removed the Twin towns section as all the info cntained was duplicated in the Culture section immediately below it. Mjroots (talk) 15:51, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

I've added a sentence about Ashford during World War II. Wilfred81 (talk) 02:41, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Recycle
I have removed the "Recycle" section as it seemed to exist only to advertise the author's own website. It was not encyclopaedic and was only of interest to the author and his/her own "very few members". It contained no information of interest. Kent6 (talk) 13:07, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Page vandalism
Asshatisforde = Eshetisford with Eshet replaced by a six letter word that Wiki filters out and will not let me post. The first six letters of Asshatisforde is a rude internet term. The only place that 'Asshatisforde' appears on the internet is this Wiki page, and all the hundreds of pages that source their content from it; so it's not likely to be true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.96.21.64 (talk) 16:26, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Ray Dorset of Mungo Jerry
The Wikipedia entry for Ashford in Kent says Ray Dorset was born in the town. But the entry for Ray Dorset himself says he was born in Middlesex. Most people are usually born in only one town. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.194.84.114 (talk) 02:56, 4 March 2012 (UTC)


 * He was born in Ashford, Middlesex (now Ashford, Surrey) and this allowed him to be local to the Crawdaddy Club in Richmond where he met The Rolling Stones and started his career. Nothing to do with this Ashford. I can't believe it's been sitting in the article for so long! Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   10:39, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Schools
There seems to be a small content dispute about what schools we should include in the article. My thoughts are that we should simply list all schools that can be confirmed in reliable sources (in this case the local council documentation) as being within Ashford town itself. I realise the town has got bigger and bigger particularly since the late 1960s, but I think listing Aldington Primary School as a school in Ashford is nevertheless pushing things a bit. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  11:20, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Recent edits
i've semi-protected the article due to what amounts to a content dispute. We are now at the D part of WP:BRD. Semi-protection will force that. This id a Good Article, let's keep it that way. Mjroots (talk) 06:15, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if the WeatherEditor socks' edits are correct, perhaps they are, perhaps they're not. I'll have to pick through the Met Office sources and find out. The principal problem I have is, as you've just hinted, they're not discussing changes particularly well, making it difficult to know their intent. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  09:38, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't know either, but the burden is that proof must be provided if challenged, which it has been. Let's see whether or not the IP will talk. Mjroots (talk) 10:47, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Right, I've had a look, and I see two problems. Firstly, the Met Office source is for Faversham, not Ashford, which makes perfect sense as that's where the nearest station is held, though I know from first hand experience with the North Downs that it's not at all unusual to have a thunderstorm in one and clear skies in the other. The bigger problem is that the source does not support the figures in the table. For example, for January, the average rainfall is given as 62.2mm, whereas the table states it as 71.4mm. The maximum average temperature for July is given as 22.8 degrees Celsius, but 21.8 degrees in the table. So in summary, the information that /  or whatever sockpuppet he's using today is factually incorrect and should not be used. Furthermore, the only reason we've having all these sockpuppet investigations is that, as Mjroots suggested, he's not discussing anything! Talk is cheap - and avoids upsets. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  15:27, 24 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I do not think that a settlement should have a weather box referenced to a weather station outside the area concerned, rather weather boxes should only be used if the weather station is inside the area covered by the article. Hence countries and regions could justifiably have one, but not villages nor many towns. The one in the article should be removed, perhaps leaving a link to a page which justifiably includes one. Faversham, Kent or even southeast England might do better as an area to have a weather box for climate. SovalValtos (talk) 15:58, 24 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I've gone through all the climate stuff and taken out everything that does not directly cite a weather event that is specifically for Ashford. I don't think the article loses any of the "broad in coverage" part of the GA criteria for it either. Ritchie333 <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  16:25, 24 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I agree. Consensus is that the weather station at Faversham is not to be used to provide weather data for Ashford. I've got the article (but not this talk page) on my patent watchlist system. I'm prepared to semi-protect it permantly, and have inserted the key to my banhammer into the lock. It'll just take a quarter turn to the right and the banhammer will be out. Mjroots (talk) 19:49, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

External links modified
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 * Clearly it's Mad March so the council have shoved some cash to make the County Square website to be updated. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  14:09, 31 March 2016 (UTC)