Talk:Association for Computing Machinery

Logo
Someone should make the logo... prettier. Im up to my neck in homework, so i havn't the time, sorry :( Ixtli 23:54, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Founding
I wonder, the IEEE Computer Society (http://www.computer.org/csinfo/) claims to have been founded in 1946!

This is a perennial source of debate. If you look closely on their site (http://www.computer.org/history/looking/index.html), you'll find that what was established in 1946 was a "Subcommittee on Large-Scale Computing Devices of the American Institute of Electrical Engineers (AIEE). Five years later, the Institute of Radio Engineers (IRE) formed its Professional Group on Electronic Computers. The AIEE and the IRE merged in 1963 to become the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE). The respective committee and group of the predecessor organizations combined to form what we now know as the IEEE Computer Society, which traces its roots--and thus its anniversary--to the formation of these organizations."

ACM was formed as ACM in 1947 and has continued under the same name.

Jim H.

I believe that Jim Horning's view represents the official ACM view more or less, however, out of respect for the Computer Society's claims, ACM changed its motto from "The First Society in Computing" to "Advancing Computing as a Science and Profession" a few years ago. Now ACM can claim to be the *largest* professional society in computing. Does anyone have figures to back that claim up? Emil Volcheck (talk) 14:18, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

I'd like to know who decided that it is the "most prestigious society scientific and educational computing society" ? The given reference is utterly biased regarding "the largest" and has no mention of the word "prestige" at all.

nobody — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.14.147.8 (talk) 05:55, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Chapters
I added a section to the page listing some information about chapters. How much detail is appropriate for the ACM page? I tried to create a Wiki page for the Baltimore ACM Chapter (founded 1963), but it was rejected on the grounds that as a chapter of a larger society, it would not be sufficiently noteworthy. Guidelines call for chapters to be listed on the page of the parent body. I would like to record history of BACM but hesitate to put this on the ACM page. Does anybody have suggestions for how to handle this? For instance, should we try to create a separate "ACM Chapters" page linked to from the main ACM page? Emil Volcheck (talk) 14:18, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

SIGs
I recently added a page for SIGPLAN and noticed that there no list of the SIGs. Do you think it could be useful? It could be an easy way to link the eventual SIG articles but would also fill up the main article with a huge text.
 * That's an idea. Perhaps WikiProject_Computer_science would take it on. CQ 20:50, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Presidential succession
The U.S. Presidents and the presidents of many other groups are represented on their individual pages by little template boxes that link to immediate predecessors and successors. Could the same thing be done with ACM presidents and vice presidents? I would find such a thing quite valuable. Especially in the early years, the list of ACM presidents and veeps reads like a Who's Who of computing. Additionally, I would very much like more detail on ACM's founding, its founding and charter members, and its first few activities—details that, for me at least, have been difficult to find in the usual reference sources. Robert K S 12:57, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Forget free library?
The ACM library was very useful to add references to wikipedia, since you could freely download the articles as pdf. Is it suddenly over now? --BMF81 14:17, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Redirection for this article
Shouldn't the page on acm should redirect automatically to this page. After all not many people know that ACM stands for Association for Computing Machinery; they know it as ACM only. Apple Grew 17:29, 4 July 2007 (UTC)


 * See Disambiguation and make a detailed case. --Macrakis 17:47, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Redirection done. I have shifted all the contents of ACM to ACM (disambiguation), so that I can use the ACM page for redirection. Now ACM only contains code for redirection to this article, but the ACM page of all other languages still need to be edited.

Also deleted link to Why I'm not an ACM Member. I think it wasn't serving any purpose on the article page. It makes many statements against ACM for which no citations have been made. If what it says is true then with proper citation it must be added to the main article, and not provide link to a personal site page. --Apple Grew 19:59, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Apple Grew, you proposed an action, and I suggested that you needed to make a case for it. Instead, in a rather uncollegial way, you unilaterally moved the page without seeking consensus, and without presenting any evidence that ACM primarily means the Ass.Comp.Mach. This may be true, but where's the evidence? For all I know, the Academy of Country Music may be more widely known as the ACM among the general public. Remember that the criterion is not that ACM means Ass.Comp.Mach. to computer-oriented people, but to English-speaking people in general. --Macrakis 20:19, 4 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry, for being hasty. A search with the keyword acm in Google and Yahoo lists Association for Computing Machinery as 2nd and Microsoft's Live lists it at no. 1. If anybody has evidence that ACM is not appropriate as Association for Computing Machinery then please revert it back. --Apple Grew 12:34, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

ACM's Archives
This may or may not belong in the article, but may be of use to anyone doing serious research on the ACM: the ACM's historical records are being deposited at the Charles Babbage Institute. See the ACM's press release on this. - Jmabel | Talk 14:59, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Conferences
The article states that "For example, the 2006 WWW conference only accepted 14% of the long papers that were submitted". However, the WWW is not organized by SIGWEB or another ACM SIG. In 2008 the WWW was organized in cooperation with SIGWEB and SIGecom but also in cooperation with a couple of other institutions. It was organized by the IW3C2. Thus, I think the WWW is a very bad example! SupperTina (talk) 22:40, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Sponsoring
I believe it would be nice to add some text explaining what "sponsorship" means in the context of a conference sponsored by the ACM. In particular, the money doesn't move in the direction usually associated with sponsoring. This makes the corresponding section of this page quite misleading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.114.210.25 (talk)

Most prestigious?
Does this need a citation? 2.217.190.199 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:16, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

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Distinguished speaker section?
I don't have experience editing Wikipedia, so I am asking (IF anyone agrees this is important) for someone else to add it. The article currently has Turing Award Winners, Fellows, and Distinguished Members sections, which are all prestigious awards of the ACM. But it also has 'senior members' which anyone who has been in the ACM for 5 years can apply for, not so prestigious. Why isn't there a section on the Distinguished Speakers of the ACM https://speakers.acm.org/? The ACM page describes these as "Renowned International Thought Leaders Speaking on the Most Important Topics in Computing Today" I would think it should be included in the ACM article, and perhaps even a separate article listing current speakers (not sure how long that list is, it might be too long to list). What do you think? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:6001:E7C2:BEF0:F9E9:3EA0:2EE7:5AD8 (talk) 18:11, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

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Oral History
wants to add Category:Oral history and added some useful information about ACM's oral history projects to the article. Personally I'm not sure about the addition of the category as ACM's primary purpose is not related to oral history. If anyone has any thoughts on whether this category should be included, please post here or join the discussion at 0mtwb9gd5wx's talk page. Thanks Caleb Stanford (talk) 17:41, 27 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Oral history of ACM. .... 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 04:12, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

POV and self-published sources
I noticed that this article seems to read a lot like a statement put out by a corporation. As it turns out, that's what most of these sources are. I rewrote the first paragraph of Criticisms with secondary sources, but I think the whole thing needs a good once- or twice-over. Aamri2 (talk) 19:52, 7 August 2023 (UTC)