Talk:Association of Tennis Professionals

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The ATP tennis website lists Marat Safin as number one, not Roger Federer? Why are some saying that Safin is fourth yet the ATP lists him as first?- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.92.177.231 (talk) 01:17, 1 February 2005 (UTC)

Reply: Because ATP has two kinds of ranking systems. One is the ATP entry ranking system which evaluates the ranking according to the performance of the players in the past 52 weeks. It is the main ranking. This is the ranking that tournament officials use to decide the "seeds". This is the true reflection of the current top player. For example, right now, Marat Safin's calculated rating for the past 52 weeks is 3360 points. On the other hand Federer's rating is 5975 points.

The second kind of ranking is the ATP Race for a specific year. In this case, all the players's rankings are set to zero at the beginning of each year and the top player in the year is decided at the end of the year. So, ranking according to the ATP race DURING a year means nothing as far as the true current status of the player. --- Zaheen, 14 Feb, 2005.- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.151.71.19 (talk) 03:09, 14 February 2005 (UTC)

Missing former world n.1 player
Hi. You seem to have missed Magnus Norman, of Sweden. He was n.1 in the late first semester of the year 2000 (granted he doesn't even have an article on Wikipedia). Regards, Redux 15:07, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Magnus was never #1 in the entry systems ranking, which is what this ranking table is about. Norman might have led the first ever ATP Champions Race for a brief while, but that's not what we are talking about here. Besides, a lot of players can become #1 in the Champions Race during the course of the year, but in that case, the guy #1 in the entry ranking is still considered the number 1 player in the tour, not the guy who is currently topping the race leaderboard.

For your information here is the history of all the #1 rankings of the ATP era :

RANK DATE PLAYER WEEKS AT NO. 1 Aug. 23, 1973 Ilie Nastase (1)  40 June 3, 1974 John Newcombe (2)  8 July 29, 1974 Jimmy Connors (3)  160 Aug. 23, 1977 Bjorn Borg (4)  1 Aug. 30, 1977 Connors  84 Apr. 9, 1979 Borg  6 May 21, 1979 Connors  7 July 9, 1979 Borg  34 Mar. 3, 1980 John McEnroe (5)  3 Mar. 24, 1980 Borg  20 Aug. 11, 1980 McEnroe  1 Aug. 18, 1980 Borg  46 July 6, 1981 McEnroe  2 July 20, 1981 Borg  2 Aug. 3, 1981 McEnroe  58 Sept. 13, 1982 Connors  7 Nov. 1, 1982 McEnroe  1 Nov. 8, 1982 Connors  1 Nov. 15, 1982 McEnroe  11 Jan. 31, 1983 Connors  1 Feb. 7, 1983 McEnroe  1 Feb. 14, 1983 Connors  2 Feb. 28, 1983 Ivan Lendl (6)  11 May 16, 1983 Connors  3 June 6, 1983 McEnroe  1 June 13, 1983 Connors  3 July 4, 1983 McEnroe  17 Oct. 31, 1983 Lendl  6 Dec. 12, 1983 McEnroe  4 Jan. 9, 1984 Lendl  9 Mar. 12, 1984 McEnroe  13 June 11, 1984 Lendl  1 June 18, 1984 McEnroe  3 July 9, 1984 Lendl  5 Aug. 13, 1984 McEnroe  53 Aug. 19, 1985 Lendl  1 Aug. 26, 1985 McEnroe  2 Sept. 9, 1985 Lendl  157 Sept. 12, 1988 Mats Wilander (7)  20 Jan. 30, 1989 Lendl  80 Aug. 13, 1990 Stefan Edberg (8)  24 Jan. 28, 1991 Boris Becker (9)  3 Feb. 18, 1991 Edberg  20 July 8, 1991 Becker  9 Sept. 9, 1991 Edberg  22 Feb. 10, 1992 Jim Courier (10)  6 Mar. 23, 1992 Edberg  3 Apr. 13, 1992 Courier  22 Sept. 14, 1992 Edberg  3 Oct. 5, 1992 Courier  27 Apr. 12, 1993 Pete Sampras (11)  19 Aug. 23, 1993 Courier  3 Sept. 13, 1993 Sampras  82 Apr. 10, 1995 Andre Agassi (12)  30 Nov. 6, 1995 Sampras  12 Jan. 29, 1996 Agassi  2 Feb. 12, 1996 Thomas Muster (13)  1 Feb. 19, 1996 Sampras  3 Mar. 11, 1996 Muster  5 Apr. 15, 1996 Sampras  102 Mar. 30, 1998 Marcelo Rios (14)  4 Apr. 27, 1998 Sampras  15 Aug. 10, 1998 Rios  2 Aug. 24, 1998 Sampras  20 Mar. 15, 1999 Carlos Moya (15)  2 Mar. 29, 1999 Sampras  5 May 3, 1999 Y. Kafelnikov (16)  6 June 14, 1999 Sampras  3 July 5, 1999 Agassi 3 July 26, 1999 Patrick Rafter (17)  1 Aug. 2, 1999 Sampras  6 Sept. 13, 1999 Agassi 52 Sept. 11, 2000 Sampras  10 Nov. 20, 2000 Marat Safin (18)  2 Dec. 4, 2000 G. Kuerten (19)  8 Jan. 29, 2001 Safin  4 Feb. 26, 2001 Kuerten  5 Apr. 2, 2001 Safin  3 Apr. 22, 2001 Kuerten  30 Nov. 19, 2001 Lleyton Hewitt (20)  75 Apr. 28, 2003 Agassi  2 May. 12, 2003 Hewitt  5 Jun. 16, 2003 Agassi  12 Sept. 8, 2003 Juan Carlos Ferrero (21)  8 Nov. 3, 2003 Andy Roddick (22) 13 Feb. 2, 2004 Roger Federer (23) 55 (current)- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.151.226.170 (talk) 21:29, 11 March 2005 (UTC)

Connors Grass Issue
Connors is not listed on top grass singles titles table, but it's mentioned he has 10, tie with Sampras, here http://www.atptennis.com/en/newsandscores/news/2006/wimbledon13.asp Someone please check it up.

Best Start to a year streak
This concept doesn't really make sense - there is no clear "start" of a season. Just because it was a widely quoted stat around the beginning of 2005 doesn't make it a legitimate stat. At best, its out of fashion.- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.150.45.86 (talk) 17:00, 9 July 2006 (UTC)