Talk:Asuran (Stargate Atlantis)

Location
Why isn't the article just called Asuran (currently a redirect to this page) in stead of Asuran (Stargate)? In the unlikely case there will be another use for the name "Asuran" we could always create a disambiguation page and move here again. Personally I'd like to move this article here, but I'm not an administrator, so I have no rights to do this. I could copy/paste the article there and make a redirect here, but that wouldn't move the history of this article, so that's not an option either. Everyone agree? Is there an administrator in the house? Cristan 09:17, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Check out the history of Asuran (Stargate) and Talk:Asuran. The article was originally named Asuran and moved (sans the early history, most of which was due to me) to what it currently is, per "our naming standards". TerraFrost 13:59, 17 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I have merged the page histories. Please do not "move" pages by cut and paste, but use the move button in the future. Thank you, Kusma (討論) 08:04, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Why did you move this article? I see no consensus or banners indicating such.  The correct location for this article, per our normal naming standards, is Asuran (Stargate). Morphh (talk) 15:50, 28 September 2006 (UTC)


 * It was requested here. My main interest was to merge the page histories, but since Asuran was a redirect to Asuran (Stargate) anyway, Asuran is the correct title anyway. There is no need for a disambiguation title if the name is not ambiguous to start with, and as the people are apparently called "Asurans", not "Asurans (Stargate)", the naming conventions suggest that Asuran is the correct title. Anyway, as I have repaired the cut and paste, the page can now be moved between the two names with the "move" function again and I won't stop you from doing so although the current title is the correct one. Kusma (討論) 16:11, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
 * BTW Stargate articles also follow the standard naming conditions, see Free Jaffa Nation, Tau'ri, Tok'ra, none of which have an unnecessary (Stargate) in the title. It is only used where necessary, as in Replicator (Stargate). Kusma (討論) 16:14, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Asuran "pistol" is a neutralizer
I know nobody is going to believe me on this but I went to the official Stargate convention in Vancouver, BC this year and I went on the set tours and saw one of the guns and got a very good picture of it, in Ancient, it says NEUTRALIZE on it. Meaning it's name is likely a neutralizer gun.

Vala M 01:34, 13 July 2007 (UTC)


 * It's not a question of believing you or not, it's a question of sources. Get a source, and we'll be happy to have your information on the page. =David ( talk )( contribs ) 01:51, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok, well, I'm glad it was left, for the being. But how am I supposed to get a source for something that I saw in person that is on a prop that has no clear examples of on the series? I do have a picture but I don't think that you are allowed to post them.

Vala M 14:11, 13 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Sure you can. You took it, so the copyright belongs to you. =David ( talk )( contribs ) 00:43, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

I wish you were right but they made us sign wavers that we would only use the pictures for personal use. What do you recommend? If you aren't certain that I'm telling the truth, ask around, they do make you sign wavers about these things.

Vala M 02:18, 14 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Ah. Well, just search google for a source.  I'm sure it's online somewhere...I honestly don't doubt you.  I believe you 100%.  But the  nazis will be down your throat if we remove that tag... =David ( talk )( contribs ) 01:15, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Planet Designation
I think it is worthwhile to note somewhere the designation of this planet by Stargate Command (and Atlantis command) as M7R-227. Does anybody else agree? HotOne121 04:01, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I think it should be noted.

Vala M 17:52, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup
I agree with moving the technology information to a unique article, but can we get someone in here to rewrite the main article? It has a lot of room for improvement in terms of grammar and phrasing. Most of the information is correct, but it needs to have those run-on sentences removed. A rewrite might be best to get the article in the right tense and in sync with the information in the other Stargate pages. I'll see if I can get around to it, but I'm not sure I have the focus/writing skill to correct it all. Xupa 13:24, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Asurans?
The word "Asurans" was only actually used in "Progeny", in all their other appearances they are refered to as the "Pegasus Replicators". Shouldn't we have that as the article title, since it seems the writer's prefer (why, I don't know) the second nomcalture. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zaphael (talk • contribs) 10:56, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Base Code
Is it actually stated that the Asurans can now alter their own base code, or is that just an assumption? I was under the impression that McKay accidentally disabled the failsafe that protected the Ancients, not that the replicators disabled it themselves. Otherwise, there'd be nothing to stop them disabling the replicator attack command themselves, which they clearly haven't done.193.61.85.126 15:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Why would they want to turn off the Wraith attack command? That is their whole perpose for existing.

And as it was put in "The Return", that there was a possibility that whem McKay edited Niam's base code that it may have opened the door for the Asurans to make more changes themselves. I don't think that McKay would have removed the "No harming the Ancients" command for any reason so it's likely that they can edit it themselves.

Vala M 18:52, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Images
I was going to add some pictures (screen shots) of various Asuran things, what sort of images do you think should be included in the article? (86.159.86.131 (talk) 19:12, 6 January 2008 (UTC))

"technically distinct"
The article claims that the Replicators ans Asurans are technically distinct life forms. Is there any reason to believe this? They could easily be different stages of the same project. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.255.191.80 (talk) 19:46, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:28, 24 January 2008 (UTC)