Talk:Athena, Phevos and Proteas

Copyright issues
I just read the Media Guidelines & Contact Information section at the '04 Olympics website. I understand why the image was removed now, and I apologize for what I previously said here. The infomation added to the Athena and Phevos image page should have been added here as well, to prevent misunderstandings like the one I just had. And by the way, since the Olympic Emblem is also protected by legislation, it shouldn't have been added to the 2004 Summer Olympics article. I'm guessing it'll end up removed as well. – Mackeriv 16:20, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)


 * I emailed them...

Is it possible to use an image of the mascots on this website(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athena_and_Phevos)? We had thought it would qualify as "fair use" but apparently you disagree. The purpose is solely educational.

Dear Mr. Nortz,

Further to your e-mail dated August 15, regarding the use of ATHENS 2004 Mascots on your website, thank you for the intention to support the Olympic Games as well as ATHENS 2004 Organizing Committee for the Olympic Games.

The use of ATHENS 2004 Mascots as well as of any kind of association with the Olympic Games is exclusively assigned to our Sponsors & Licensees that are supporting the Games.

Pursuing our task to maintain a corporate image for the Olympic Games and to develop integrated communication activities, ATHENS 2004 established Olympic Marks and Terms' protection programs.

Further to the above, regretfully we inform you that your request to use the ATHENS 2004 Mascots on your website, cannot be permitted.

Sincerely yours,

For the ATHENS 2004 Organising Committee for the Olympic Games

Iro Vamvacari Marks Approval Executive--Tothebarricades.tk 01:52, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Just... wow. This is very odd, indeed. But at least you tried, and that's what matters. Kudos. – Mackeriv 12:54, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)


 * Seconded... thanks for taking the time to email them, Tothebarricades.tk. &bull; Benc &bull; 09:01, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * The image that is copyright is the photograph itself. Subjects of photographs, or objects that may appear in them are not copyright, or Times Square could not be photographed. The photograph in this article does not defame the image in any way. --Wetman 00:40, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Image placement
I'm not crazy about where I've put the second image, but it can't go to the left of #External links because (at least in some browsers) image boxes break the layout of bullet lists which appear on their right. (The bullets get placed under the image.) I'm open to ideas... &mdash;Tkinias 21:44, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * I tried removing the "  " and changing "right" to "left", and it actually worked. The bullets won't go under the image. Anyway, it doesn't look bad to me, the way it is now.


 * By the way, I though the all copyright stuff wouldn't let us use images for the mascots, even if it's a photo taken from a doll? I'm not sure now. I don't remember anymore.--Kaonashi 01:15, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

"See the relevant entry"
The phrase "See the relevant entry" needs to be replaced with a proper link. --rossb 13:33, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

"But Artemis was Apollo's sister!"
This isssue keeps coming up.Let's clarify a tiny but important detail about these mascots:They are not supposed to represent the ancient gods.That's right.They are simply supposed to represent two children, a brother and a sister.The whole "Athena and Fevos" controversy probably arose when someone misread the (mediocre) english version of the mascot's official site: [] and probably popped a blood vessel over the first sentence: "Phevos and Athena are brother and sister" and tried to vent his/her frustration in this article.Unfortunately, had the poor editor managed to endure reading just two more sentences, he would have been spared the anguish:"And yet the two siblings are children of modern times."Remember, people:Cautious reading saves lives(and editing time).--Jsone 15:15, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

But Apollo and Athena are siblings, they have the same father. Also it is normal to portray the two together in the classical world, see Euminidies for example. They were the male and female example of progress! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.194.179.2 (talk) 15:07, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Marzipan?
Does anyone think these guys kind of looked like Marzipan from Homestar Runner?--Hailey 21:35, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

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