Talk:Athens–Piraeus Electric Railways

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iSAP
an On-line FEM software for structural engineers. structural analysis and design can operate online, without any downloading, installation... refer: http://co-base.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.232.249.208 (talk) 08:44, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Second Oldest?
The article of Budapest Metro also claims that it is “the second-oldest underground metro system in the world”. One should solve this misunderstanding. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.60.124.169 (talk) 16:20, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Athens-Piraeus Railway did not operate as a metro line until its electrification in 1904. Before that it was a traditional steam-hauled railway. SV1XV (talk) 20:52, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Editor adding false information
User:Skgxt repeatedly modifies this article, as well as Attiko Metro, trying to enforce the view that both rail systems are part of a so called "Athens Metro" with 3 lines.

Officially there is no "Athens Metro system" which includes ISAP and AM/AMEL. For now there are two separate and unrelated urban railway companies. One is ISAP, an OASA subsidiary, which owns and operates the so-called "Line 1". The other is AMEL, a subsidiary of Attiko Metro (not connected to OASA), which opeates Lines 2 and 3 (on tracks owned by Attiko Metro and OSE). There is no corporate, business, managerial or other connection between the Metro companies and ISAP. The link between the two articles is in Athens Mass Transit System. The two systems may merge in the near future, but for the time being they are unrelated.

I cannot revert his edits every time, therefore I request protection of this article in the old format, without his edits. SV1XV (talk) 18:19, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

ISAP Trains no longer arranged in 5-car units
Hello. I use the ISAP often and have observed that all trains are now arranged in 6-car units, with 2 DM-T-DM "half-trains" coupled together. However, they may have been historically arranged in 5-car units. Please rectify this in the article. --212.152.101.172 (talk) 15:09, 1 July 2011 (UTC)


 * They have not rearranged the cars, simply they have enough 6-unit trains for the current reduced timetable and they don't use the 5-unit trains. Or, to be more accurate, they don't use for now the 2-unit half trains, they only use 3-unit half-trains. This may change when the line reopens fully with direct services from Piraeus to Kifissia. SV1XV (talk) 15:28, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

--212.152.77.247 (talk) 08:18, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, okay.

Closure of the Kifisia platform at Monastiraki worth mentioning
For the convenience of readers, I think the fact that only Piraeus bound trains halt at Monastiraki and all trains coming from Piraeus to Kifisia terminate at Omonoia should be mentioned. --212.152.77.247 (talk) 08:22, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: Already moved. EdJohnston (talk) 23:34, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

ISAP → Athens-Piraeus Electric Railways – More descriptive and less ambiguous name SV1XV (talk) 13:08, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support the current title should be a disambiguation page. -- 70.24.250.103 (talk) 05:07, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

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Goossens
Athens–Piraeus Electric Railways ....Goossens two steeple-cab electric locomotives.... I have trolled the internet, but I have not been able to find Goossens in any relevant form. Peter Horn User talk 15:21, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
 * , Hi, what do you know about Goossens?

rolling stock
The rolling stock section displays rolling stock of Sap Sa(1869-1926) Eis sa(1926-1976) and then isap rolling stock. This is a confusing section--2A02:587:4418:1122:A501:FAEF:7275:8BE8 (talk) 03:24, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

unrelated info to this article
I think the article has info about history of the line in general like rolling stock section, i suggest the creation of a new article with title like history of Line 1 Athens metro and can be like further info link to line 1 article history section or historical rolling stock of line 1. I think must stay in the article only the info related to isap company including for example the rolling stock that isap used.--2A02:587:440F:273A:311A:D405:9327:BEC0 (talk) 07:08, 14 July 2020 (UTC)