Talk:Atherton, Greater Manchester/Archive 1

Clean up
this isnt very well written im going to clean it up one day but I cant be bothered right now other than changing the nightlife section Spacemurkin82 01:24, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Requested move

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No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 00:35, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Atherton, Greater Manchester → Atherton — Surelly this ought to be the prime topic. Crouch, Swale  talk to me   My contribs  11:37, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Its a disambiguation page, doing its job. WatcherZero (talk) 13:25, 5 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep as it is. Atherton, Manchester does not have monopoly (or prominence).Koncorde (talk) 14:30, 5 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose. This Atherton is not significantly larger or more important than the Queensland or California one and gets significantly less page views than the California city.  This to me is a very clear case of no primary topic. Dpmuk (talk) 15:48, 5 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose It may be the original settlement but it should remain as it is. I thought that was what disambiguation pages were for.--J3Mrs (talk) 17:29, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
 * If it is the original settlement, should that not be a good reason to make it the prime topic. Crouch, Swale   talk to me   My contribs  21:03, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * No. Under current official Wikipedia policy it's a very minor consideration at best. No change of vote (below). Andrewa (talk) 16:18, 8 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose. Surelly there is no case to answer. Andrewa (talk) 00:54, 6 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose. No obvious primary topic here. --DAJF (talk) 06:51, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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Atherleigh Ward
Wigan council mentions it as one of the two wards on its Atherton Township page, and according to Wigan and Leigh Community Safety Partnership's Atherleigh page, part of the ward is in Atherton. Peter&#160;E.&#160;James (talk) 23:44, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Margaret Clitherow
The article for Margaret Clitherow says "The Sacred Heart Church at Hindsford, Atherton, Greater Manchester has been renamed 'The Parish Church of St Margaret Clitherow'." There is a sign in front of the church bearing this name. Is this really "nonsense" and if so why? Would an upload of a picture of the church name board make things any clearer? Martinevans123 (talk) 08:43, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * It is nonsense in the way you presented it, i.e. without knowing the whole story. J3Mrs (talk) 09:00, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for telling me. Reassuring that someone knows "the whole story". I see the church name board spells the name "Clitheroe". Is this also nonsense (in the way it's presented)? Martinevans123 (talk) 09:22, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * It seems I must have been thinking of an entirely different name board! The board in fact makes it quite clear that it's still called Sacred Heart RC Church, it's just that it is now in the "Parish of St Margaret Clitherow". (With a W.) Martinevans123 (talk) 20:40, 28 April 2013 (UTC) Church of the Sacred Heart, St Margaret Clitherow, Hindsford.jpg

The Jolly Nailor, Market Street
This pub has a distinctive name that reflects the history of local industry in Atherton. It's also a lively music venue and is supplied by a local independent brewery. But I'm not sure if it's worth a mention in the article just because of these things. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:32, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Mentioned in this Wigan Council Conservation Area Appraisal: (see page 5). In fact, the history of nail making in Atherton is quite fascinating:. Apparently "sparrow bills" were a speciality. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:27, 28 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Add it and very soon the article would deteriorate into a list of pubs. Nail making is mentioned. You have to draw a line as to what to include. J3Mrs (talk) 07:49, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your reply. Yes, I know exactly what you mean. I fear something similar has happened at Wetherby. I was thinking only of a short phrase such as "as reflected in the name of The Jolly Nailor pub on Market Street", or something like that. But we don’t want to mess up what is a GA by putting that in the lead section. Then there’s also The Spinners Arms, so perhaps a slippery slope. Maybe there should be a "Public Houses of Atherton" article! (only if there was enough material of real historic interest, of course). Martinevans123 (talk) 10:24, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Godric
"The western boundary is Hindsford Brook, originally named Goderic Brook after a Saxon saint." (Lunn, John (1971), Atherton Lancashire, A manorial social and industrial history, Atherton UDC, p. 2) We can't add what Lunn doesn't say, but surely there was only one Saint Goderic, who was Anglo-Saxon and not Saxon? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:52, 20 October 2013 (UTC)