Talk:Atlantic puffin

Breeding
Added by Moomoop2: "The Atlantic Puffin is sexually mature at age 5-6 and breeding occurs for approximately 3 years. This bird incubates by holding the egg up to its brood patch with its wing." (1) Sexually mature at 5-6, yes, sure. (2) Breeding occurs for 3 years??? What does that mean? It's nonsense - they often live into their 20s. Deleted. (3) holds the egg against the brood patch with its wing? Sounds like nonsense. Any evidence? Meanwhile, I have deleted it. Gnusmas 13:00, 8 April 2006 (UTC)


 * well done - it really was moo poop! jimfbleak 13:51, 8 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I think I need to rewrite the entire thing. Some truths, much rubbish, with half-baked additions coming along frequently, and mostly very badly written. I guess it's a species with a high nonsense-attraction factor! It needs more than mere editing... I'll get around to it and do a complete new article soon. Gnusmas 07:45, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Map
I'd like to see a map of the Atlantic puffin's range. Unfortunately, I have no experience in making that kind of map. --Gray Porpoise 03:07, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Indeed it would be great. Here the IUCN map as a base, for anybody with the time and skills. -- ELEKHHT 20:01, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Atlantic Puffin Exhibits?
Is it worth mentioning in the article that there are Atlantic Puffins on display at places like the National Aquarium in Baltimore (see here)? --Amanojyaku (talk) 20:57, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * No, unless a zoo collection is of particular importance, eg working on saving a highly threatened species, it's just another animal in another zoo  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  19:36, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

¶ I would like to see some comment regarding the similarities (and the relation of Natural Selection) of the various penguins and puffins. The penguins, of course, are in the region of the South Pole and the puffins in the region of the North Pole but they have striking similarities that suggest parallel development. For example, the black backs and white chests enable them to hunt for fish by swimming -- their white chests tend to give them camouflage against the sky to fish that look upward at them, the black backs camouflage against the water to seabirds such as pelicans that look downward at them. The puffins can fly but not the penguins, although the penguins have this remarkable ability to leap out of the water. I wonder if anyone ever tried to interbreed them. Sussmanbern (talk) 06:16, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Fratercula
Fratercula means "little brother".--Wetman (talk) 22:17, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Capitalisation
It seems to me that when this bird is mentioned in the text as just a "puffin" (rather by its full name), the word should be lower-cased. As in, for example, the article Bald Eagle, which uses "eagle" throughout when not using the full name. Colonies Chris (talk) 16:12, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't disagree with you, but having brought the article to FA and having been made to capitalise all the uses of the word puffin on the way, I think it best to leave them capitalised. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:49, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Cereal
There is an American cereal line called Puffins that comes in several flavors. Is that worth mentioning? Brutannica (talk) 18:15, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I suppose it could be added (properly referenced) to the "In culture" section but I am not enthusiastic! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:32, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
 * What would that addition tell us about Atlantic Puffins? - absolutely nothing. Make additions that improve the article - we don't need trivia.  Richerman    (talk) 19:44, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Wild Scotland
An editor (Paul venter) has added some information to the article Atlantic puffin derived from a TV documentary, referencing it to the TV show webpage although the facts referred to are not mentioned on the webpage. I removed this new information as being insufficiently cited but it has been replaced. The claim is about an unusual behaviour involving puffins and ravens, and I think it should only be included in the article if supported by a reliable source such as a research study. Other views on this would be welcome. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:15, 22 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Tricky. We do accept videos and TV programmes as sources, but I agree that it would be better if we could reference the behaviour to an academic source. The reference is inadequate as presented anyway. This sort of reference should give the episode and timing within the episode. It may be worth having a search to see if a better ref can be found, but I don't think it's currently acceptable without the required additional info. leave it for a day or two and I'll see what I can find. If it can't be verified, and the info isn't improved, I'll revert I'll revert Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  11:09, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

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WP:URFA/2020
I have several concerns before marking this Satisfactory at WP:URFA:
 * This is a 2002 source, and begs for an update or at least an as of date: They are still caught and eaten in Iceland and the Faroe Islands,[64]
 * updated to 2021 Jimfbleak - talk to me?  14:48, 7 April 2021 (UTC)


 * This source says it is not the latest assessment: is an update needed?
 * updated Jimfbleak - talk to me?  14:48, 7 April 2021 (UTC)


 * This is a 2011 source, is it current? ... but calls have been made for an outright ban on hunting them in Iceland because of concern over the dwindling number of birds successfully raising chicks.[65]
 * Still permitted, tweaked to use same ref as for first bullet Jimfbleak - talk to me?  14:55, 7 April 2021 (UTC)


 * And ... what happened? In August 2007, the Atlantic puffin was proposed as the official symbol of the Liberal Party of Canada by its deputy leader Michael Ignatieff, ...
 * no sign that it happened, amended Jimfbleak - talk to me?  14:48, 7 April 2021 (UTC)


 * There are incomplete citations and some WP:OVERLINKing.
 * , could you take care of this? LittleJerry (talk) 00:13, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Sandy Georgia (Talk)  17:25, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Perhaps could fix this? LittleJerry (talk) 23:12, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , I'll have a look, but it may be next week before I get time, very busy in RL at present Jimfbleak - talk to me?  08:31, 30 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I've fixed the specific queries regarding old sources and updates, and removed a few bits of unsourced or inadequately sourced minor points. Jimfbleak - talk to me?  13:24, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

, I think the major issues have been addressed. LittleJerry (talk) 19:06, 21 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Another one on my list, will get to it ... as soon as I can :) Sandy Georgia (Talk)  22:01, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

marking satisfactory at URFA, but this citation is incomplete (needs a correct title, trans-title, lang and publisher): Sorry for the delay! Best regards, Sandy Georgia (Talk)  18:35, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
 * "LPO". Retrieved 31 August 2013.
 * , I don't think that's necessary since we are merely citing the main page of the charity so we can see the logo. I removed mention of it anyway. LittleJerry (talk) 20:46, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Merger proposal
I'm proposing merging Faroese puffin into this article. That article is about Atlantic puffins as food and contains only a few pieces of information that are not already in this article's section on hunting or elsewhere in this article. Additionally, "Faroese puffin" does not appear to be a widely attested name for puffins as food. D loaf (talk) 04:46, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Support - I think this article already contains the info we need about the subject (and I'm saying that as probably one of the few editors here who has actually tasted it). FunkMonk (talk) 13:41, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment - I have no objection to the merger as long as it is carefully done so as not to lower the quality of the larger article. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:06, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

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